Rage against the machine - killing in the name

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 6:22 pm

Why was it that back in the day (early 90s) this song in it's original version was banned in Singapore?

Was it the expletives, or the 'invigoration' to stand up to authority? 'F*** you I won't do what you tell me, mother***er!' does leave little to the imagination after all.

Or maybe both?

Is music still censored in Singapore?

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 6:27 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8de2W3rt ... re=related
Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name - 1993

The advent of the mass internet access must have been a bummer for SG.

Try and control it and look like a bunch of autocratic loonies... ignore it and still look like a bunch of autocratic loonies hehehe...

Post by **nakatago** » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 7:03 pm

JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8de2W3rt ... re=related
Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name - 1993

The advent of the mass internet access must have been a bummer for SG.

Try and control it and look like a bunch of autocratic loonies... ignore it and still look like a bunch of autocratic loonies hehehe...

The PRC government doesn't seem to mind looking like autocratic loonies...as long as the middle class gets to buy their signature bags, their nice cars, expensive electronics, restaurant dinners and other creature comforts.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 9:17 pm

That's because the majority of the PRCs are not educated or wealthy enough to leave.

One suspects a tipping point is slowly being reached in SG (it would be quicker if they stopped redrawing electoral boundaries etc). In PRC the people are still largely peasants and so so happy just consuming...

'I don't care if I live under a brutal dictator, look at my new LV handbag!'

Post by **nakatago** » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:56 pm

JR8 wrote:'I don't care if I live under a brutal dictator, look at my new LV handbag!'

This.

QFT.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 1:14 am

Lol.. had to look that one up!

Aka... word

Calmday · Post by **Calmday** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 8:09 am

JR8 wrote: 'I don't care if I live under a brutal dictator, look at my new LV handbag!'

LOL I guess you dont get out much.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 3:32 pm

Calmday wrote:
JR8 wrote: 'I don't care if I live under a brutal dictator, look at my new LV handbag!'
LOL I guess you dont get out much.

I beg your pardon? Come again? Repetez s'il vous plait?

The 'quote' was imaginary, what one might hear coming from a fulfilled PRC peasant. Sorry that one escaped you, whilst others got it.

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 3:45 pm

'twas my thoughts as well.

like, it went over like a lead baloon.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 4:37 pm

JR8 wrote: A basis of more sophisticated English humour is [to] be so subtle that the listener is unsure whether something said is meant in jest or is serious. ...

Of course together with this lies a danger. Quite an amount of English humour involves being cheeky, 'taking the mickey', at times bordering on the downright insulting.

Add tight nuance in there, type it on the web you know a place like this (no body language), maybe cross a language or cultural barrier, and you are guaranteed to occasionally really offend someone.

Post by **nakatago** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 4:40 pm

JR8 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:'twas my thoughts as well. like, it went over like a lead baloon.
Oh lordy, this is getting serious

A basis of more sophisticated English humour is be so subtle that the listener is unsure whether something said is meant in jest or is serious. If you can master that, and just get the audience to fall over the wall onto the side of having got it, then it's a winner. The beauty is in having the listener (in their head) turn something almost straight into the intended joke.

I think this is why the British find a lot of American comedy rather 'puzzling'. It like rully totally lacks any subtlety man

p.s. Gimme Benny Hill any day hahahaha

Yes, real subtle.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 4:47 pm

Nope agree, I see no humour in that at all either.

A 'fail' as far as I concerned...

Post by **nakatago** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 4:54 pm

"I haven't slept for 10 days because that would be too long."

Thing with comedy is, mileage always varies.

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 5:10 pm

The other pillar being irony of course...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRx90mOXS7Q&NR=1
Blackadder courtroom scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JobArfqq1Ug
fawlty towers episode 2 The germans (3 of 3)

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Thu, 12 Aug 2010 5:26 pm

I was actually agreeing with you JR8.

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