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Can I give up Singapore Citizenship?

Postby mustfindanswers » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 7:05 am

Hi,

I'm hoping to get some answers here...

After my NS, I left Singapore for studies. After 5 years, I graduated and was looking for a job. I asked for exit permit extension but was denied. They wanted me to come back to re-apply. I don't have the money, or the time since I was looking for a job. 15 years later, I will be getting my citizenship very soon.

Can I give up my Singapore citizenship? I have not been back to reservists but completed my 2 years of NS. I want to come back to visit my family but as a tourist, is that possible?

Thanks.

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Re: Can I give up Singapore Citizenship?

Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 7:20 am

Well you come to the right place "must find answers

mustfindanswers wrote:Hi,

I'm hoping to get some answers here...

After my NS, I left Singapore for studies. After 5 years, I graduated and was looking for a job. I asked for exit permit extension but was denied.

Are you a Sger or a PR. If you are one of this two, you need to apply for Exit Permit when you leave SG for overseas work or studies. Usually it is either One , Two or Five Years depending on how you filled up the box when you apply in their websitr

They wanted me to come back to re-apply. I don't have the money, or the time since I was looking for a job.

Yes you need to come back as you are considered as a defaulter although you serve the NS but the other portion of the reservist you have not complied. Failure will result in fine or jail time. You cannot even visit SG at all. Best to call CMPB if you wish to return and sort this out. It will be a fine if you came back to surrender unless they want to show you as an example for other would be defaulters

15 years later, I will be getting my citizenship very soon.
What kind of citizenship that needs 15 years to acquired ? Even you want to renounce SG , you have to serve 3 cycle years of NS Reservist b4 you can renounce
Can I give up my Singapore citizenship? I have not been back to reservists but completed my 2 years of NS. I want to come back to visit my family but as a tourist, is that possible?

Not possible unless you sort this reservist issue

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Postby mustfindanswers » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 7:47 am

Thanks for the quick reply.

So it seems like I would have to call CMPB and figure it out before I can denounce my Singapore Citizenship. How much is the fine? Do they negotiate to pay a fine instead of detention or whatever?

I would rather pay the fine and then give up my SG citizenship and be over with.

Thanks.

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 8:05 am

mustfindanswers wrote:Thanks for the quick reply.

So it seems like I would have to call CMPB and figure it out before I can denounce my Singapore Citizenship. How much is the fine? Do they negotiate to pay a fine instead of detention or whatever?

I would rather pay the fine and then give up my SG citizenship and be over with.

Thanks.

After paying the fine or spending some time in the jail you still need to complete your NS duties if I am not mistakes. So nothing here is that simple and straight forward.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 8:14 am

OP

You do not DENOUNCE , you renounce.

In order to sort this out , I would be incline to do this

1. Call CMPB and state that you are coming back on which flight so that there will be no major drama with ICA border control officer. Either the MP will wait for you or you surrender yourself at CMPB after a night sleep of course.ICA may or may not consficate your SG PP. I am not so sure on this
2. A fine of up to $10K from memory depending on the length of defaultment.
3. Jail time will depend on the judge and the prosecutors. Highly unlikely but remote possibilities. If jail time either Queenstown Remand or Changi. No detention as that is for active personnel
You cannot nego on this as you have no ground to nego.
4. Serve your reservist cycle i.e 3 cycle after that and you can renounce

OK ?
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Postby mustfindanswers » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 9:06 am

Mad Scientist wrote:OP

You do not DENOUNCE , you renounce.

In order to sort this out , I would be incline to do this

1. Call CMPB and state that you are coming back on which flight so that there will be no major drama with ICA border control officer. Either the MP will wait for you or you surrender yourself at CMPB after a night sleep of course.ICA may or may not consficate your SG PP. I am not so sure on this
2. A fine of up to $10K from memory depending on the length of defaultment.
3. Jail time will depend on the judge and the prosecutors. Highly unlikely but remote possibilities. If jail time either Queenstown Remand or Changi. No detention as that is for active personnel
You cannot nego on this as you have no ground to nego.
4. Serve your reservist cycle i.e 3 cycle after that and you can renounce

OK ?



Well. I won't be traveling on a SG passport. 10K is way too much, since they paid me peanuts while I gave 2 years of my life in NS. If there's jail time, then I guess I don't need to come back to SG at all.

Wow... seriously... unreasonable if you ask me.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 9:25 am

mustfindanswers wrote:
Well. I won't be traveling on a SG passport. 10K is way too much, since they paid me peanuts while I gave 2 years of my life in NS. If there's jail time, then I guess I don't need to come back to SG at all.

Wow... seriously... unreasonable if you ask me.


10K is the max. Anyway this is your choice. Just do not travel back to SG at all be it using SG or foreign PP . Not even transit just to be safe.

Peanuts well....... Like SM Goh's wife said "You pay peanuts you get monkey!!"

Just do not shut the door completely as you might regret it in your later life

Years from now, when you have completely forgotten about this issue and you step into SG and get caught for something that you commit years ago. Boy...... that will definitely be a shocker to you.The oldest person caught for NS Defaultment was at the age of 60 in 2007.

Just thread carefully my friend
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Re: Can I give up Singapore Citizenship?

Postby vivienshoshanna » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:27 am

mustfindanswers wrote:Hi,

I'm hoping to get some answers here...

After my NS, I left Singapore for studies. After 5 years, I graduated and was looking for a job. I asked for exit permit extension but was denied. They wanted me to come back to re-apply. I don't have the money, or the time since I was looking for a job. 15 years later, I will be getting my citizenship very soon.

Can I give up my Singapore citizenship? I have not been back to reservists but completed my 2 years of NS. I want to come back to visit my family but as a tourist, is that possible?

Thanks.


whatever your choice is, just be sure that you won't regret it.. Good luck..


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