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Heading to Singapore in OCT-will GF be ok with LTVP

Postby ozdamo » Mon, 09 Aug 2010 4:30 pm

Hi all,

Looks like I will be coming to Singapore in October, and my GF will head over most likely in the NY. The company that is taking me over there will provide my GF with a "long term visit pass"-

My question is- Will she be OK to find work with this VISA?? She is a qualified fitness instructor and currently employed with Fitness First in Sydney plus contracts with many other gyms around Sydney. Her qualifications are in Pilates, Spin classes, Combat, Body Pump, Boxing and is also Cert Qualified for Person Training.

Do you think she will find work with a company like Fitness First with the Long term Visit pass?? Or is it possible to do one on one training that is cash in hand with the EX pat community??

Thanks

D

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Postby BillyB » Mon, 09 Aug 2010 5:13 pm

Hey,

Is she your girlfriend or wife? It may sound like a stupid question based on your post but it makes a lot difference.

Assuming you are not married then she is not eligible for a Long term visit pass. She will have to apply for an EPEC pass to look for work and there are criteria she needs to meet. You cannot work using the EPEC, it simply gives you the rights to remain in Singpaore to actively look for work. Upon finding employment this will be converted into a work visa or employment pass.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

That is the official route to seek employment.

I would strongly advise against the cash in hand route. It does happen I have no doubt but Singapore being Singapore I wouldn't risk getting caught and all the problems that will bring.

I would look at the MOM website www.mom.gov.sg to understand the process in more detail.

Hope this helps.

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Postby ozdamo » Mon, 09 Aug 2010 5:45 pm

thanks for that.

Yes she is my Long Term Girl Friend. We are aware that Singapore don't recognize de facto relationships hence the questions.

This was the response I got from my soon to be employer

Do XXXXX organize my partners flight and visa??

We will pay for your partners flight plus Visa. The Visa is called a Long Term Visit Pass which gives your partner 6 months to find employment. Given the nature of her industry I suspect she will take nowhere that amount of time to find work.

Does that sound like the correct avenue for her. I will jump onto your link and have a read now but if anyone has any other experience with this then I would love to hear your story.

Cheers
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Re: Heading to Singapore in OCT-will GF be ok with LTVP

Postby x9200 » Mon, 09 Aug 2010 6:05 pm

ozdamo wrote:My question is- Will she be OK to find work with this VISA?? She is a qualified

Depending on a number of factors she will be lucky to have the LTSVP granted. You should really browse a bit through this forum (esp. the one on relocating to Singapore) or use the search function. There were few pretty recent topics on the subject GF+LTSVP.

And to the question: No, she can not work on LTSVP.

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Postby Saint » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 3:15 pm

ozdamo wrote:
This was the response I got from my soon to be employer

Do XXXXX organize my partners flight and visa??

We will pay for your partners flight plus Visa. The Visa is called a Long Term Visit Pass which gives your partner 6 months to find employment. Given the nature of her industry I suspect she will take nowhere that amount of time to find work.



This isn't at all accurate what your employer has told you, it looks as if they are refering to a EPEC. Also for them to say it will be easy for your GF to get a job is misleading and far from the truth, especially at the moment. I would personally get her to contact Fitness First here in Singapore and get them to advise you on the probability of A) getting a job offer, B) getting the appropiate employment pass approved.

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Re: Heading to Singapore in OCT-will GF be ok with LTVP

Postby singaporeflyer » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 5:15 pm

ozdamo wrote:Hi all,

Looks like I will be coming to Singapore in October, and my GF will head over most likely in the NY. The company that is taking me over there will provide my GF with a "long term visit pass"-

My question is- Will she be OK to find work with this VISA?? She is a qualified fitness instructor and currently employed with Fitness First in Sydney plus contracts with many other gyms around Sydney. Her qualifications are in Pilates, Spin classes, Combat, Body Pump, Boxing and is also Cert Qualified for Person Training.

Do you think she will find work with a company like Fitness First with the Long term Visit pass?? Or is it possible to do one on one training that is cash in hand with the EX pat community??

Thanks

D


What is your VISA Status in Singapore?

If example you are going to be on a EP and if you and your GF are living together for a long time and are able to prove that to the MOM, there is a slight chance that she might qualify for a Dependant Pass.

If in case you are married at that time, she will be eligible for an Dependant pass. She will not be eligible for LTSVP unless she applies for EPEC under her own merits.

Please note that grant of EPEC does not mean approval of LTSVP. Both are based on its own merits these days

If you are a Singapore Citizen or PR, then you can apply for LTSVP for her if you are married.

In any case she will not be able to work in Singapore on a LTSVP.

For working in Singapore the candidate has to be a Singapore Citizen /Singaporean PR/ Employment Pass holder /WP holder/ DP holder/ Student working Part Time/Entre Pass Holder. Other than this category none of them are allowed to work in Singapore

Please note that there are lots of local professionals who are qualified in fitness training and this might make it difficult to get an EP/ S Pass to work in Singapore.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 5:24 pm

BUT! There is an extreme lack of "Professional" fitness trainers in Singapore. There are lots with professional certifications, but are a far cry from being professional.

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Postby carteki » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 5:38 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:BUT! There is an extreme lack of "Professional" fitness trainers in Singapore. There are lots with professional certifications, but are a far cry from being professional.


Agree, but how does a govt body decipher the difference?

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Postby ksl » Tue, 10 Aug 2010 9:33 pm

Singaporeflyer:If example you are going to be on a EP and if you and your GF are living together for a long time and are able to prove that to the MOM, there is a slight chance that she might qualify for a Dependant Pass.


No chance for a dependant pass for girlfriend the rule is not flexible. LTSVP is the one!

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Postby Smilla1978 » Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:42 pm

actually, you CAN get a LTVP for your girlfriend if you aren't married.

My boyfriend and I moved here six months ago. He has an EP and I have an LTVP (which his company applied for for me). We just had to get a stat dec stating that we were in a 'common law marriage', ie, married in every way but the certificate. basically you have to have lived together for a decent period of time and share some of your finances. We are both from Australia - I don't know if that is of any importance with regards to reciprocal agreements etc.

Also, on an LTVP, your girlfriend has the right to look for work and if she finds a job she simply moves to the relevant work pass.

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Postby ozdamo » Fri, 27 Aug 2010 5:27 pm

thanks for all the reply's and apologies for my slow reply...... so much stuff to sort out before heading over!!!

My employer has told me they will be her sponsor for the LTVP for the first 6 months. After that it is up to her.

I will be on EP if all approved by MOM so it would be great if my GF could get the dependents pass.. We have also talked about marriage. We can prove that we have been together for the last 7 years so I cant see a problem there.. (even though Im not MOM)

she has great references from all her employees here in OZ and is highly regarded as a great PT and Group Fitness trainer. This is with Fitness First. Life Style Fitness and Fernwood and a few others.

We would hope she could walk into a managers roll within one of the fitness gyms in SG.


Any other thoughts??

Cheers

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 27 Aug 2010 6:34 pm

The only way a Dependent's Pass is going to happen is if you two are legally married.

If you can satisfactorily document the de facto relationship, getting the LTVP shouldn't pose any real problems, if you are a P1 or P2 EP holder. Otherwise, a Q or S EP holders, you are out of luck there as well. She does not need an EPEC in order for you to get her the LTVP provided you can document the common law relationship. ( This can, I believe, be nothing more than a notarized statement made you your consular officer at your country's embassy).

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/ ... fault.aspx

However, you may have a problem after the sponsorship runs out unless you can find another sponsor (Employer) here in Singapore as you have stated they will only opt for 6 months. (the sponsor HAS TO BE THE SAME AS THE EP HOLDER'S SPONSOR)

While she cannot work on an LTVP, should she get an offer, the employer will have to apply for an employment pass for her in her own right, if she can find a position AND a company willing to apply for the employment pass. Saint's recommendation is a good start.

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