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Can I cancel my PR?

Postby wyz135 » Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:32 pm

I'm confused about this issue, I really need some advice.

I am a Singapore PR, and I'm 16 and a half years old. Recently my family is planning to migrate to Australia as our Australian PR is approved. My main concern is, can I just cancel my PR and leave without serving NS? I know for Singaporeans if they want to do that they have to compensate $75,000 to the government, but since I'm a PR, can I just cancel my PR and leave Singapore?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:44 pm

No, unless you want to be a deserter. You will never be able to enter Singapore again. There is even a possibility of your being picked up in transit should you attempt to do that as well. There are numerous threads on this forum regarding same. Use the search function just below the Profile link at the upper right side of this page.

Or just browse through the Strictly Speaking Sub-Forum.

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Postby wyz135 » Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:42 pm

Which means I can't leave and have to stay to complete NS? I just looking around the internet and saw this:

Male children who are granted Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for national service (NS) upon reaching 16½ years old. NS-liable SPRs are expected to serve NS.

Renouncing SPR status without serving or completing NS may adversely impact future applications to work or study in Singapore.

After cancellation of SPR status, a Short Visit Pass valid for a month is usually granted. Former Singapore Permanent Residents who wish to continue to study or work in Singapore must apply for a student, work or employment pass from the appropriate authority. As noted above, the decision to renounce permanent residence may have an adverse impact on applications for work or student passes.

A former SPR may be granted entry to Singapore as an ordinary social visitor upon his / her return to Singapore, subject to Singapore's entry requirements, which include holding a valid passport with at least six months validity, entry visas (if applicable), confirmed return / onward tickets, sufficient funds for the period of stay in Singapore and entry facilities, including visas, to their onward destinations. Decision to admit the traveler is at the discretion of Immigration & Checkpoints Authority officers at the time of arrival at Singapore checkpoints.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:54 pm

Do your NS? Or forget you ever knew Singapore. :?

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Postby wyz135 » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:02 am

Looks like I don't have any choices other than staying until I complete my NS... Whatever it is, I sure have a bright future... Anyway thanks for the information.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 4:41 am

wyz135 wrote:I know for Singaporeans if they want to do that they have to compensate $75,000 to the government, but since I'm a PR, can I just cancel my PR and leave Singapore?


This is incorrect. Whether you are a SPR or Sger , you must provide $75K bond or two sureties if you intend to stay out of SG for more than 2 yrs for overseas study between 13 to 18.IT DOES NOT ERASE your obligation to serve NS
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Postby wyz135 » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:30 am

I've checked with my dad, he said my family's permanent residency status will be expired by next year april, if my dad don't renew it, my PR status will automatically be gone, then how can the government make me stay to do NS... I'm getting confused.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:41 am

They can't make you stay, but they can forbid you to return and if you haven't applied for an exit permit, you become a military deserter with is something different then ICA and PR. You Dad is fixing to ruin you life as far is Singapore is concerned. As I said earlier, go back and read the threads here for more details. Or, believe you dad. Your choice. But be prepared to not be able to return to Singapore in the future.

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Postby wyz135 » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:39 pm

So you suggest that my PR get renewed and serve NS, while my parents leave for Australia, sounds like a good plan to me.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 1:32 pm

I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just telling you what to expect if you go the way you father suggests. Oh, by the way. You father knew your obligations to do NS in Singapore when he got you your PR as the government makes sure that that obligation is understood by the parents. You father just thought he could pull something over on the government. But all that he has done is managed to totally screw up your future. Be sure to thank him. :x

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Postby Mad Scientist » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 3:30 pm

WYZ135

Here is the deal . You can take it or deny it but the fact remains your Dad is either misinformed or do not really care your future. In any case, this is your choice to make.By Not renewing your PR does not mean, your PR status is automatically canceled. Your family has to informed ICA and surrender the PR Card.
This is from ICA Guideline that you need to know. Pay close attention to the bolded sentences


National Service Liability


Under the Enlistment Act, all male Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents, unless exempted, are liable to register for National Service (NS). Following the completion of full-time NS, they will be required to serve up to 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service (ORNS) per year for the duration of their ORNS training cycle till the age of 50 years (for officers) or 40 years (for other ranks).

Main applicants who are granted PR status under the Professionals/Technical Personnel and Skilled Workers (PTS) Scheme or the Investor Scheme are exempted from NS. Male children who are granted PR status under their parents' sponsorship are liable for NS under the Enlistment Act. They are required to register for NS upon reaching 16½ years old and will be scheduled for enlistment at the earliest opportunity upon reaching 18 years old. If they are pursuing full-time studies, deferment from full-time NS may be granted only if they meet the deferment conditions stipulated by the Ministry of Defence which can be found at www.ns.sg. All NS-liable males aged 13 years old and above, are required to obtain an Exit Permit (EP) when travelling overseas for 3 months or more.

NS-liable PRs are expected to serve NS. Renouncing or losing one's PR status without serving or completing full-time NS would have an adverse impact on any immediate or future applications to work or study in Singapore, or for Singapore citizenship or PR status.

Males who are granted Singapore PR, and who were previously Singapore Citizens or Singapore Permanent Residents, are liable to be called up for NS regardless of the type of PR status they have been granted.


Do not ruin your life . I am have two boys too that renounce their SG Citizenship years back BUT unlike your Dad, I follow the steps to the T
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Postby wyz135 » Sun, 25 Jul 2010 6:30 pm

Hmm.. Thanks for enlightening me, its not my dad who wanted to ruin my future, its that he's also confused with this issue. Looks like I need to talk to him about this issue and modify our family plans... Thanks for the information.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Mon, 26 Jul 2010 4:21 am

wyz135 wrote:Hmm.. Thanks for enlightening me, its not my dad who wanted to ruin my future, its that he's also confused with this issue. Looks like I need to talk to him about this issue and modify our family plans... Thanks for the information.



Good on you for taking this approach. I would be incline to serve the NS then renounce. It is only two years. How hard can it be? I was trained by the Isrealis back in the 70s. Nowadays it is like a walk in the park.
Once that, you can still come back to SG for work, Employment Pass due to your contribution to the National Security of Singapore. It will reflect on your working application to MOM and stand good stead in your application.
If you do not burn bridges and your choices will be wide open after that.
Make sure if you are still incline to go with your DAD route, apply Exit Permit and tick overseas study if you do not want to renounce . Tertiary education is NOT allowed under Exit Permit. You can complete your Yr 11 and 12 in OZ until then and come back to serve after that.
Two sureties or $75K bond if you leave more than two years> I would be incline to go for the former option.
You are at an NS age bracket your EP will no more than One Year for overseas study.
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