Criminal Record from UK

peterjack · Post by **peterjack** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 4:24 pm

Hi,

I really have a dilema. I was convicted in a UK court for an offence and had to pay a small fine for an offence. I have just been offered a fantastic paypacket and waiting for a call from the HR department to confirm. Will my EP be rejected based on my Criminal Record? Should I declare it?

I do not want my family to find out and have kept it quiet from them. Do the government reject based purely on my CR or will they give it to me considering the role on offer and that it is only the one offence? If so should I declare it or not?

I am a newbie on this forum so please forgive if this has been asked before.

Thanks

Post by **singaporeflyer** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 4:28 pm

peterjack wrote:Hi,

I really have a dilema. I was convicted in a UK court for an offence and had to pay a small fine for an offence. I have just been offered a fantastic paypacket and waiting for a call from the HR department to confirm. Will my EP be rejected based on my Criminal Record? Should I declare it?

I do not want my family to find out and have kept it quiet from them. Do the government reject based purely on my CR or will they give it to me considering the role on offer and that it is only the one offence? If so should I declare it or not?

I am a newbie on this forum so please forgive if this has been asked before.

Thanks

SMS or Saint or MS will advise you on this. Wait for them to answer your question

You can start reading the below thread just for an idea to start off

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic70185.html

But you did not mention about that the offence was.

peterjack · Post by **peterjack** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 4:54 pm

Hi The offence was for 'kerb crawling' and this happened in May.

I was trapped by the Police just driving in an area with a bad problem of prostitution. They had cameras in the area and as I was lost I was driving up and down the same street a few times, I saw someone on the corner and asked for directions and got pulled over then.

I am so worried please help

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 5:25 pm

peterjack wrote:Hi The offence was for 'kerb crawling' and this happened in May.

I was trapped by the Police just driving in an area with a bad problem of prostitution. They had cameras in the area and as I was lost I was driving up and down the same street a few times, I saw someone on the corner and asked for directions and got pulled over then.

I am so worried please help

That old chestnut

Prostitution is to some extent legal here but kerb crawling is illegal. Whether it will affect your EP application I couldn't know for sure but as the offence wasn't drugs or physical violence related and you received a fine I wouldn't think it would seriously affect the application, but don't quote me on that!

P.S if you want to know where to "get lost" here in Singapore it's not hard to find out!

peterjack · Post by **peterjack** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 5:38 pm

Hi,

Thanks for your advice. Ok I will 100% declare it as I do not want to get caught out and be banned for life. I guess the Singapore government checks are very strict???

When I do declare it should I state 'Kerb crawling' or 'Illict a person from a vehicle for the purposes of prsotitution'. Or Should I check in the UK what I specifically got charged for and write it verbose?

I do not want my family from finding out which is why I am so scared. Once I declare it do I need to re-declare if moving jobs after a period of 5 years (when it is spent?). Or will it now be on my record forever?

I am so worried

Thanks

Post by **singaporeflyer** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 6:32 pm

peterjack wrote:Hi,

Thanks for your advice. Ok I will 100% declare it as I do not want to get caught out and be banned for life. I guess the Singapore government checks are very strict???

When I do declare it should I state 'Kerb crawling' or 'Illict a person from a vehicle for the purposes of prsotitution'. Or Should I check in the UK what I specifically got charged for and write it verbose?

I do not want my family from finding out which is why I am so scared. Once I declare it do I need to re-declare if moving jobs after a period of 5 years (when it is spent?). Or will it now be on my record forever?

I am so worried

Thanks

Whenever you change jobs, you have to submit a new application. Each application has the declaration(s) to be made.

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 6:54 pm

peterjack wrote:Hi The offence was for 'kerb crawling' and this happened in May.

I was trapped by the Police just driving in an area with a bad problem of prostitution. They had cameras in the area and as I was lost I was driving up and down the same street a few times, I saw someone on the corner and asked for directions and got pulled over then.

I am so worried please help

First of all. Prostitution is legal in SG. All workers in this industry carries an ID card to identify them as one as they have to go thru health screen monthly.
Penal Code 376 A, B and C identifies if you are engaging anyone under 18 which is consider as a minor for the purpose of this act
Now, for yourself, IMHO it is not a major issue unless you can tell me specifically what you have been charge with. Then I can translate for you based on the local law here.
Application for work has to be declared truthfully or else it will bit you back in the bum later on

peterjack · Post by **peterjack** » Thu, 22 Jul 2010 8:04 pm

Hi All,

Thanks for all your wonderful advice so far. If like you say prostituion is legal in Singapore, do I need to declare it?

I am just getting the formal wording for you and will let you know.

Thanks

Mad Scientist · Post by **Mad Scientist** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 4:20 am

peterjack wrote:Hi All,

Thanks for all your wonderful advice so far. If like you say prostituion is legal in Singapore, do I need to declare it?

I am just getting the formal wording for you and will let you know.

Thanks

Prostitution is legal and if one intent to go for "a quick release" and if you go and seek the "accredited" ones, yeah no worries. Pimping, phedophile, sex act with a minor which is under 18, incest, illegal activity in the act to commit crime or intent for prositution during short stay or visit. Coercing and contracting this act prior consent from Gahmen. All the above and more is a NO NO !!

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:46 am

Why are you so scared of the family knowing, if all that happened was that you got lost?

JayCee · Post by **JayCee** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 1:42 pm

JR8 wrote:Why are you so scared of the family knowing, if all that happened was that you got lost?

Was thinking the same thing, this must be a wind-up surely

OP - make sure you get a good map in Singapore, we wouldn't want you accidentally getting 'lost' in Geylang or Joo Chiat

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 5:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2fmN9HhlNw
Little Britain - Sir Norman Fry MP

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 5:59 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEgspP0BYq4&NR=1

JR8 · Post by **JR8** » Fri, 23 Jul 2010 6:05 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJC0hX4N2w&NR=1

Little Britain - Press Conference Sir Norman Fry number 3 of 3.

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