Detailed Consultation Notes
Been taken aback tat most of them are just businessmen just wanting to make a quick buck..similar to chuang wj of wisclinic. sighs.. hence i will not proceed to consult with the rest of the doctors, its such a waste of money, transportation and consultation fees.. sighs.... and I am running short of cash now, too. So just spending the next few days recuperating. Overall they clarified my understandig of eyelid anatomy, with dr choong helping the most. =)
1) chung of eve plastic
- eyelid can be lowered 1- 1.5 mm using fat injection
- risk is lumpiness.. to solve that, inject deeper and serially ( over a series of injections in 3 month window period ). the fat can be stored for 6 months. basically pay 1 000 000 won one-time fee, and inject as many times i want.
- blunt cannula used during injection..centrifuge for 3 minutes.
- not much pictures to show me.. and all of them were of very very sunken eyelids. he says he doesnt have photos of the lowered eyelid ( specifically high eyelid after surgery )
- i didnt ask him about the risks, just specifically targetted lumpiness.
- he said that the wrinkling of the skin , due to reverse epicanthoplasty, will mostly not be permanent.
- problem is he didn't warn me of the wrinkling effect during the consultation.. i didnt expect it either.. i was quite shocked that my eyes were wrinkled but put it to edema.
- his three photos dont have wrinkling, so i hope that it does not happen..
2) teiumps clinic
- i consulted two doctors - one english speaking , one not really. the one who doesnt speak english apparently supposedly to be more experienced one.
- both doctors say that there is only the excisional method that can be done. my case is not the 10% whereby its hollow and they do not use the excisional method
- they say that they have to remove about 3-4 mm of skin above the new lowered incision line, as i wish for a decrease of 1-2 mm.
- this excision of skin will exceed the current scar boundary.
- they will release the adhesion, and reattach it and make it into a dynamic crease
- they say that my diagrams are too simplified and seemed condescending and full of themselves
- they say that fat grafting will never work. as my eyes are not sunken.
- they say that there is never a method to do it without skin excision, or else there will be two lines ( creases? ).
- seem like businessmen, overall aura that they out to cheat my money.
- when i discussed anatomy with them, they seem to cut things short and think i am wrong in my understanding, said i study too much. they said that the scar tissue is too much and that all the anatomy is different now.
-they say that the incision is 10mm.
- total of 3 doctors in that clinic.
- they seem like businessmen.overconfident.
3) dr baek of vip clinic
- baek does not speak english. got a korean girl translate for me
- dr baek says that the fat injection will not work, when i pressed him why he says that the muscular layer is around 1mm only, and if one were to inject fats, the fat will bulge out as lumps due to the thin orbicularis oris layer around 1mm.
- he says that the fat grafting will press down and prevent the levator muscle from working properly.
- he says that my lip lift scar is worse than my eyes.
- he doesnt think my eyes are that bad.
- when i asked him for photos, we showed me a few generic ones, out of a folder of around 10 pictures.
- he had only a few PRIMARY surgery photos.
- his excuse for not having photos : its not with him now. when i asked him can he email me the photos when he has it, he says that it is difficult to get photos, because the photos were always be taken in different angles, and hard to take 2 photos for good comparison. i think thats a pretty lame excuse.
- he says that surgeons do not do injections. when i asked him about filler injection to lower the eyelid e.g. restylane.
- the translator says that she knows of many patients who did with this doctor, and he has many years of experience. seems like a load of bull-mini cooper.
- he says that he will lower the adhesion of the levator aponeurosis to the skin.
- when i asked him what he will do to prevent readhesion, he says there is no such thing. when i asked him if fats can be slided down or grafted inside, he says that why would he want to do that? he says dont have to do that.
- he says that he has done this procedure many times, and dont have to worry.
- he laughs at my lip lift scar-line and say that the incision could be done in a zig-zag manner to have prevented that scar.
- he quotes me 3000 usd ( crazy ) for a simple excision of the scar.
- he quotes me 2400 usd for revision eyelid surgery.
- he is full of himself and overconfident
4) dr choong of cjcosmetic
- probably the most fruitful consultation.
- hes the most helpful, most keen to help and the most sincere, honest. instead of the rest being businessmen.
- the best $12 i paid . discussions are below;