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Postby nakatago » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:03 am

ScoobyDoes wrote:It's just over three months until my EP expires and I did a renewal application earlier this week. It was rejected the same day.

Now submitted the usual appeal.

Been here 5yrs....... guess it might just be another 3-months more.


Man, this is making me nervous.

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:14 pm

YankStuckinSuiss wrote:that sucks...sorry to hear that. Only other option is getting married, I guess. :(



I think my current wife would have something to say about that.

With the appeal officially taking 'at least 4-weeks' it begins to get close to the expiry date so we'll definately have a rush in the end to make a move stick - finding a school for our 5-yr old being the biggest challenge.

Two choices at the moment is 1) to figure out how quickly a 'Malaysia My 2nd Home' visa can be issued OR 2) shift everything, people and company to Hong Kong.
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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 1:21 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:It's just over three months until my EP expires and I did a renewal application earlier this week. It was rejected the same day.

Now submitted the usual appeal.

Been here 5yrs....... guess it might just be another 3-months more.


Interesting. Care to share salary / ethnicity / other vital stats for the board's collective knowledge?

I'm assuming you're Canadian, but who knows.. :P

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 1:22 pm

anteater wrote:
YankStuckinSuiss wrote:
anteater wrote:I have been working within the same company for 3 years in Singapore and I have just found a new job, but my EP got rejected, with a master degree from france. thus, unless something went wrong with my application, western applicants are also concerned.


Was your master's degree in the same field as your current work?

What is your jobs?


master in CS, position IT manager, previous experience all the same.. salary 4500 though, dunno how bad is that. anyway, appealing now, if that one is rejected, I heard they will give a reason this time!


Quite low IMO. I've only worked two MNCs here, but they'd be paying double to triple that as base.

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 2:39 pm

zzm9980 wrote:Interesting. Care to share salary / ethnicity / other vital stats for the board's collective knowledge?

I'm assuming you're Canadian, but who knows.. :P



Not Canadian, but definately white. I own 25% of our company here but do 90% of the work so on that basis it is easy to move it so I'm now making provisional plans for a shift to HK. According to my tax estimate from filing last month, should be paying $2Xk when i get the bill.

And yes, the company is profitable as well.
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Postby the lynx » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 5:00 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:
YankStuckinSuiss wrote:that sucks...sorry to hear that. Only other option is getting married, I guess. :(
Two choices at the moment is 1) to figure out how quickly a 'Malaysia My 2nd Home' visa can be issued OR 2) shift everything, people and company to Hong Kong.


8 weeks.

http://www.mm2h.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8

Check the link, depending on your company, there may be benefits as well...

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 16 Apr 2012 5:31 pm

the lynx wrote:Two choices at the moment is 1) to figure out how quickly a 'Malaysia My 2nd Home' visa can be issued OR 2) shift everything, people and company to Hong Kong.


8 weeks.

http://www.mm2h.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8

Check the link, depending on your company, there may be benefits as well...[/quote]


Thanks, a guy put me onto a new pass called a 'Resident Pass' that he said i should also be able to get in about 8-wks.

I used to have an Employment Pass there before moving to Singapore and the thought is I should easily qualify in the appeal stage given my previous history in the country and my qualifications. More so if the government thinks they are getting one over on their Singaporean counterparts :)

It might be worth sticking in an application first anyway, for the cost of a few RM.
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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 17 Apr 2012 5:54 pm

Scoob

Getting EP from Malaysia is far easier even without my 2nd Home.
I would suugest you set up a shell company in JB. Look for company secretary in JB. Reputable ones like Selamat and NG .
Set up the company and get them to apply EP for you and DP for family.
Then on apply Malaysia MY @nd Home concurrently.
The first one I would do it even if you have your EP renewed. Keep it for back up.
I would not think your EP would be rejected since you have paid your dues owed to the Gahmen.
Nowadays they are more on to sifting through the rubbles and cracks to close the gap.
Do you have employees in your company ?
Are you one of the directors ?Locals ?
Did your company pay tax ?
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Postby ScoobyDoes » Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:31 am

Mad Scientist wrote:Do you have employees in your company ?
Are you one of the directors ?Locals ?
Did your company pay tax ?



Thanks MS.

1) Yes, two but both European (me+1).... I think this might be the problem, we've not hired locals or PR.
2) Yes, plus two PR plus two locals
3) Company just completed its second financial year, but we pay everything that needs paid.


Yes, it has already been approved by the shareholders here (me being one) to set up a Sdn Bhd. I just never followed through given quite a difficult business environment in our sector last year. I'm driving up to KL in a couple of hours and will catch up on that again.

The problem with EP is the paid up capital required to hire a foreigner, set at something like RM250k. I had this problem in my previous company when I last moved to KL but we 'worked it out' :wink: for a fee, though not a small one. This is maybe why my guy in KL pointed me to their new Resident Pass, meant for those currently on 2-yr revolving EP to step up to a pass valid for 5 or 10yrs residency....... not tied to an employer. This is pretty much the same as PEP here and looks excellent.

I should be able to get that, even without a company initially in Malaysia.

MS, thanks for your input...... you confirmed and reinforced something that was hanging around the back of my mind and most likely gave me the final push that it is the way to go.
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UPDATE

Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 07 May 2012 8:43 pm

EP Approved through appeal process for 36-months.

You guys are stuck with me for just a bit longer :P
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Re: UPDATE

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 07 May 2012 9:05 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:EP Approved through appeal process for 36-months.

You guys are stuck with me for just a bit longer :P


WoW! Congratulations Scoob! Bet that warranted a big sigh of relief! Now you are going to have to join us at the next eagles gathering! :D

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Postby the lynx » Mon, 07 May 2012 10:00 pm

Good for you friend! Glad you made it :) That was a real tough chew over there.

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Postby JR8 » Mon, 07 May 2012 10:14 pm

Nice! :D

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Re: UPDATE

Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 07 May 2012 10:50 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
ScoobyDoes wrote:EP Approved through appeal process for 36-months.

You guys are stuck with me for just a bit longer :P


WoW! Congratulations Scoob! Bet that warranted a big sigh of relief! Now you are going to have to join us at the next eagles gathering! :D



Relief, yes....... less at being allowed to stay and more at not having to up sticks to KL or HK, if that makes sense, though it would have been fine either way. It's just the hassle that is best avoided.
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Re: UPDATE

Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 08 May 2012 1:32 am

ScoobyDoes wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
ScoobyDoes wrote:EP Approved through appeal process for 36-months.

You guys are stuck with me for just a bit longer :P


WoW! Congratulations Scoob! Bet that warranted a big sigh of relief! Now you are going to have to join us at the next eagles gathering! :D



Relief, yes....... less at being allowed to stay and more at not having to up sticks to KL or HK, if that makes sense, though it would have been fine either way. It's just the hassle that is best avoided.


Now you have to make plans for the next renewal.
I would strongly suggest those proposal I gave you earlier on to be put in place.

CONGRATS for the renewal !!
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