Son with British Passport Aged 16.5 leaving in USA

[fraser]

I need some he;lp!
I am British and my wife is Singaporean
We will obtain US passports within a month and intend to travel to Singapore late July so my wife can renounce her Singapore Citizenship.

Our son was born in Singapore but holds a British passport. We have lived in the US since he was 6. (He is now 16.5) And we are planning on travelling together. We will be applying for his US cert of citizenship.

We want our son to travel to Singapore with us in late July for the vacation, he will enter Singapore on either the UK or US passport if we are able to receive it in time.

I have read some of the comments on this forum regarding entry/departure etc and are now quite concerned that my son may not be able to enter or leave Singapore freely on his foreign passport.

Any advise would be much appreciated
Fraser.

[Mad Scientist]

I need some he;lp!
I am British and my wife is Singaporean
We will obtain US passports within a month and intend to travel to Singapore late July so my wife can renounce her Singapore Citizenship.

If wife wants to renounce back in SG, she will not get everything done in a day or even in a two weeks !!. Call ICA ie Citizen Advise Bureau. Get the forms first and filled it and get it notarised. Once that send it over by Registered Mail or DHL. It takes about 6 weeks to get all docs vetted by SG Gahmen

Our son was born in Singapore but holds a British passport. We have lived in the US since he was 6. (He is now 16.5) And we are planning on travelling together. We will be applying for his US cert of citizenship.

Does he holds any SG Passport albeit SG Birth Certificate.
If he does not hold then he is treated like any other visitor. No worries at all.

We want our son to travel to Singapore with us in late July for the vacation, he will enter Singapore on either the UK or US passport if we are able to receive it in time.

See the above comment

I have read some of the comments on this forum regarding entry/departure etc and are now quite concerned that my son may not be able to enter or leave Singapore freely on his foreign passport.

Any advise would be much appreciated
Fraser.

[fraser]

Mad Scientist,

Thanks,

Yes he had a SG passport (its expired) and yes he has a SG birth ceritificate.

What affect does this have?

Fraser

[Mad Scientist]

Mad Scientist,

Thanks,

Yes he had a SG passport (its expired) and yes he has a SG birth ceritificate.

What affect does this have?

Fraser

I hate to tell you this but he has alot of explaining to do with the SG Gahmen.

You said he has left the country since 6 yrs of age.
Has he travel back to SG from then till now with his SG PP. ?
Has he applied for Exit Permit when he turns 13 ?
Has he register himself for NS when he turns 16 and a half ?
Even if he DOES NOT want to serve the NS, applying for Exit Permit when he turns 13 and apply for deferment pending renunciation at the age of 21 with CMPB is a must

[fraser]

Thats was I was fearing..


You said he has left the country since 6 yrs of age.
Has he travel back to SG from then till now with his SG PP.

No. Only his British passport.

Has he applied for Exit Permit when he turns 13 ?

No.

Has he register himself for NS when he turns 16 and a half ?
No.

Even if he DOES NOT want to serve the NS, applying for Exit Permit when he turns 13 and apply for deferment pending renunciation at the age of 21 with CMPB is a must.

Oh No.
Maybe entering in July on the British passport for a twoo vacation would not be a good idea?

[Mad Scientist]

Oh no.... you are in a real spot right now

1. Bad idea for July trip.

2. Get your wife to do her renounce via snail mail and e-mail. Get her to renounce herself this way or else it gets all mess up with your son NS liabilities
2. Under the enlistment act Chap 93, and section 33 of the same act and 94, he is liable.
3. Communicate with CMPB now. Plead ignorance
4. Try to get his EP and those deferment till 21 pending renunciation papers from CMPB. Try this link www.nsportal.gov.sg or www.ns.sg . I doubt they will allow you to get those doc. and EP BUT if you state that he has left SG since 6 and has not travel back to SG since then. Moreover his SG PP has expired more than 5 yrs.Write anything to subtanstiate you plea like holding Brit PP and US PP etc.It is worth a shot

If all fails or denied, do not enter nor transit thru SG as he will be considered as NS defaulter.

[fraser]

Thanks,

I'm going to discuss this with my wife tonight and maybe get back to you.
You have been very helpful thanks.

Maybe my son and I can hang out in Malaysia while my wife visits SG.

[Mad Scientist]

Thanks,

I'm going to discuss this with my wife tonight and maybe get back to you.
You have been very helpful thanks.

Maybe my son and I can hang out in Malaysia while my wife visits SG.

No worries

Like I said best your family not return i.e wife not return to SG after she has completed her renounciation process. Trust me, I have seen it all