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Re: SQ walk in - 20th October

Postby lindyhoppe » Sun, 21 Oct 2007 9:31 pm

superpinkystar wrote:i have stopped trying for sq for about 2 years.
partly the reason was that i was on full medication because of my acne outbreak.

but this year, i decided to try my luck again at the walk in.
i have since fully recovered but still going under medication, i am just left with a bit of scarring which could be easily concealed.
if not, chemical peeling.

i am totally disappointed at the walk in today.

there were so many beautiful girls, cabin crew material.
height, qualifications etc.

i got into 2nd round (kebaya/skin check)
i was the only one in my group who made it to round 2. (it was a blessing in disguise)

i could not believe my eyes how they actually scrutinise girls during the skin check round.

one of the girls i made friends with was not allowed to go for the skin check because when she was walking up and down the room to check for posture. the lady actually told her she has high shoulders, i was like wtf???
like this, she was out.

another one, had a mosquito mark on her leg and the lady thought it was mark!! again, she was out.

i was out too because of my acne marks.

gosh..
you know how hard we girls try to be cabin crew.
yet, people run us down like that.
so, do you expect us to be model like material?

don't mind me, i am just rambling out my thoughts.


Hi, i share the same thoughts as you when i tried out at these walk-ins. My last try was early Jan this year. Reading the posts here reminded me how demoralised, and to a certain extent, disappointed. It is just so difficult to get through, but there are a few ppl i know got through on 1st try, or even rejected the offer after all the rounds. Oh well... shrugs.

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Postby superpinkystar » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:15 am

my bf told me to declare to them i was on medication during the kebaya/skin check round.
but i didn't because i am worried that they will take it as an excuse or what.
i actually brought my medicine and cert to show them if they wanted to ask me why my skin like that..
but i didn't.

hmmm,
but i may or may not try again.
will be my 7th time if i try again.
*smile always

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Re: SQ walk in - 20th October

Postby michieeee » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 1:46 am

vinrouge wrote:
superpinkystar wrote:i have stopped trying for sq for about 2 years.
partly the reason was that i was on full medication because of my acne outbreak.

but this year, i decided to try my luck again at the walk in.
i have since fully recovered but still going under medication, i am just left with a bit of scarring which could be easily concealed.
if not, chemical peeling.

i am totally disappointed at the walk in today.

there were so many beautiful girls, cabin crew material.
height, qualifications etc.

i got into 2nd round (kebaya/skin check)
i was the only one in my group who made it to round 2. (it was a blessing in disguise)

i could not believe my eyes how they actually scrutinise girls during the skin check round.

one of the girls i made friends with was not allowed to go for the skin check because when she was walking up and down the room to check for posture. the lady actually told her she has high shoulders, i was like wtf???
like this, she was out.

another one, had a mosquito mark on her leg and the lady thought it was mark!! again, she was out.

i was out too because of my acne marks.

gosh..
you know how hard we girls try to be cabin crew.
yet, people run us down like that.
so, do you expect us to be model like material?

don't mind me, i am just rambling out my thoughts.


hey there. for the skin check, they will scrutinise your legs too?


hi,

i don't think they will notice that much as the kebaya would cover almost everything. Just hope that your legs don't have too obvious scars when you walk...

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Postby momo20 » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 2:25 am

I didn't go for the walk-in interview this time but just my 2 cents worth on this..

For those who got in, of course it's easier to tell the other girls/guys that we need to be confident, let the personality shine through etc but sometimes, these things are just not enough to get us through. We saw so many examples of girls that we felt really have the qualities to make it but in the end, you know what happens. What I'm trying to say is luck plays a part too in the interviews. Really, it's just a matter of whether the interviewers like you or not. If it happens that the interviewers just feel that you don't seem good enough for them or what, I just feel that no matter what you do or say won't help much. Nothing you can do much about how they perceive you.

And I just think that SIA is being quite anal, especially when it comes to skin and body checks. I heard from friends about how they got criticized about the little little marks they had on their bodies. I even had a friend who was told that her left ear is flatter than the other ear! I think it's ok if they pinpoint the faults you have but I think it'll be a tad too much if the faults they pointed out won't be obvious when you put on the uniform. It's really quite mean I feel.

So girls! Don't feel like you are really ugly or what cos confidence is still important. Those interviewers are humans afterall and the way they judge things differs from one another. Maybe I'll try out for the december recruitment (if there is one) and hope I have lady luck on my side!!! :D

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Postby kaozzzzzz » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 9:47 pm

momo20 wrote:I didn't go for the walk-in interview this time but just my 2 cents worth on this..

For those who got in, of course it's easier to tell the other girls/guys that we need to be confident, let the personality shine through etc but sometimes, these things are just not enough to get us through. We saw so many examples of girls that we felt really have the qualities to make it but in the end, you know what happens. What I'm trying to say is luck plays a part too in the interviews. Really, it's just a matter of whether the interviewers like you or not. If it happens that the interviewers just feel that you don't seem good enough for them or what, I just feel that no matter what you do or say won't help much. Nothing you can do much about how they perceive you.

And I just think that SIA is being quite anal, especially when it comes to skin and body checks. I heard from friends about how they got criticized about the little little marks they had on their bodies. I even had a friend who was told that her left ear is flatter than the other ear! I think it's ok if they pinpoint the faults you have but I think it'll be a tad too much if the faults they pointed out won't be obvious when you put on the uniform. It's really quite mean I feel.

So girls! Don't feel like you are really ugly or what cos confidence is still important. Those interviewers are humans afterall and the way they judge things differs from one another. Maybe I'll try out for the december recruitment (if there is one) and hope I have lady luck on my side!!! :D



Hi momo20,

Am not trying to rebutt whatever you are typing...but just wanna share what I thought....

For those who had been through the interview, of course by now you would know how to express that kind of confidence (by seeing who got in) in Grp Interview..I do agree that luck plays on this part as well. As what many others here have posted, SIA know what to look out for potential candidates. Those who responded to questions like how to score or whatever, were just trying to help and give some pointers which they thought would help. You can simply ignore the ideal of getting such tips. But then, it wouldn't be fair for you to think that whatever tips they had given were hopeless etc, these might have actually helped people get pass to Round 1 or even all rounds! Also, since you know what kind of attitude etc is needed, then maybe you can try to achieve it and work towards it if you really want the job! By the way, like what most people understand and posted, the job sounds glam, the money is good! but then it's just another waiting and customer service job that has slightly that better benefits and exposure.

As for the criticism and such, the world is just so bitchy, think it this way, they were just preparing you! If you can't take that kind of remarks, how are you going to finish that bond and serve customers? If you'd actually scanned through the forum, you would have definetly read about how the senior stewardess "tekan" the juniors. Come to think of it, which job do not have such bitchiness??

True the interviewers are humans, but SIA is a big Corporate Company, there are bound to have a set of rules and guidelines on employment, the interviewers don't own the Company.Everyone should try and of course, it would be good if you are employed...if not, take it as an experience and strive hard to be accepted for the next one!

Building up your own confidence and looking on the bright side is more important for you to prepare for the next interview! Do not give up! Good luck

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Postby ow_tv » Mon, 22 Oct 2007 9:57 pm

hi,

i am new to this forum and would like to post some queries about the sia recruitment.

Regarding the scar issues, are they stringent about blemishes and pimples on the back? Cuz I read in the forum that a girl was kicked out for mosquito bites on her legs.

Also, superpinkystar, which doctor did you go to? I would like to see a good doctor regarding my pimples before I try for the next interview again.[/list]

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Postby starlit3z » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:31 am

momo20 wrote:I didn't go for the walk-in interview this time but just my 2 cents worth on this..

For those who got in, of course it's easier to tell the other girls/guys that we need to be confident, let the personality shine through etc but sometimes, these things are just not enough to get us through. We saw so many examples of girls that we felt really have the qualities to make it but in the end, you know what happens. What I'm trying to say is luck plays a part too in the interviews. Really, it's just a matter of whether the interviewers like you or not. If it happens that the interviewers just feel that you don't seem good enough for them or what, I just feel that no matter what you do or say won't help much. Nothing you can do much about how they perceive you.

And I just think that SIA is being quite anal, especially when it comes to skin and body checks. I heard from friends about how they got criticized about the little little marks they had on their bodies. I even had a friend who was told that her left ear is flatter than the other ear! I think it's ok if they pinpoint the faults you have but I think it'll be a tad too much if the faults they pointed out won't be obvious when you put on the uniform. It's really quite mean I feel.

So girls! Don't feel like you are really ugly or what cos confidence is still important. Those interviewers are humans afterall and the way they judge things differs from one another. Maybe I'll try out for the december recruitment (if there is one) and hope I have lady luck on my side!!! :D


I would think that not all the skin check interviewers are really that bad. The ladies i met at the aug walk in wasnt that BAD.. i had a very obvious knee scar, hand scar due to a motorbike accident, and i passed the kebaya round.

I guess they were looking at your poise, confidence level, and hw would you react in such "high-pressure" situation. Imagine a passenger staring at u on flight, you would have to smile and take it as nth happen instead of frowning and ask why did they stare at you, isnt it ? :)

my "one cent" worth. :lol:

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Discrmination

Postby Hate » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 1:39 pm

Hi guys,
Just to put on some comments..on what you all have wrote well I think some 'A' level student dun really speak fluent english from what I see in the stewardess more of a ah lian type. Scolding ppl in an ill manner, which I think is really horrible. I had experience before that they do not see on locals as guest to them only the expats are guest to them. We local are being treated very rudely.That's y noe I do not take SQ anymore. I think is enough for a one time experience. I think some gals whom are able to present themselves was turn dwn due to the qualifications reason. It seems that the 4 mths course include english course is abit useless to them.

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Postby beenhoon » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 2:44 pm

hahaha... ah lians are pretty ma, thats why SIA likes them :)

well, i think it is typical that they treat angmohs passengers better, in general singaporeans do that in their daily lives too ( i've seem pp and service staffs treating angmohs better than locals). i do take SQ now and then, and as for this part, i agree that they treat us, locals not as good as angmohs. but i guess maybe due to the reasons that angmohs are more generous with heir praises and thank you-s.

as for me, i am just a normal passenger, i don't bother the crews. just sit in my seat and read my book and eat whatever they fed me and drink whatever they have :). so i am a 'kuai' passenger i suppose.. hee...
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Postby CelT » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 2:50 pm

hi Hate,

Well,there are bound to be black Sheep in every flock...So, its not too fair to generalise that stewardess in SIA is as such..& i dont think SIA rejects people due to their qualification, if one meets at least the minimum....which is an Olevels....everyone has an equal chance.. :) ...to be shortlisted takes more than just qualification...We have people who are passengers of SIA giving SIA a thumbup for their excellent service...so, i guess to each has its own....SIA able to maintain its rank in the aviation industry means "something"...something that the other airlines do not have...Well, this is my Objective point of view! :D
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Re: Discrmination

Postby Stu » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 3:36 pm

Hate wrote: I had experience before that they do not see on locals as guest to them only the expats are guest to them. We local are being treated very rudely.That's y noe I do not take SQ anymore. I think is enough for a one time experience.


I don't think the SIA cabin crew treat the Foreigners better than the Locals, at least I don't feel it (or maybe it is because of my PPS status :) ). If they did in the past, I don't think they do anymore in view of the various feedback/comments received previously.

However, there was once when I ordered Fish for my main course and it so happens that I was one of the last few in Business Class to be served. By then, I was told apologetically by the Air Stewardess that they ran out of Fish (which was available at the time when my order was taken!! :o ) and was asked what would I rather have on the Raffles Class food menu. So I offered to downgrade myself and asked the Stewardess what the Economy class passengers were having and whether Fish was one of their options. Immediately, she felt guilty and offered me the Fish from the First class menu and thus received an instant upgrade!! :D

So you see, it is all about handling the situation tactfully and you will be treated even better than the Foreigners!! :lol: Making a big fuss would not have achieved anything at that point......

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Re: Discrmination

Postby yuanz » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 3:53 pm

Hate wrote:Hi guys,
Just to put on some comments..on what you all have wrote well I think some 'A' level student dun really speak fluent english from what I see in the stewardess more of a ah lian type. Scolding ppl in an ill manner, which I think is really horrible. I had experience before that they do not see on locals as guest to them only the expats are guest to them. We local are being treated very rudely.That's y noe I do not take SQ anymore. I think is enough for a one time experience. I think some gals whom are able to present themselves was turn dwn due to the qualifications reason. It seems that the 4 mths course include english course is abit useless to them.


Hey Hate, maybe its because these expats are more outgoing and these stewardess in the process of responding to them may have given rise to the misconception that they are friendlier to these expats and thus providing a better service. SIA pumps in lots of money into training and I've heard countless praises of excellent services provided by SIA cabin crew. I agree that there will be one or two black sheep as CelT had mentioned, but generally most of the stewardess do have a certain standard if not they won't even be allowed to pass their training and be a certified stewardess! Just my point of view, theres an article which you might be interested to read :wink:
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Postby Hate » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 4:04 pm

I think I should just keep my mouth shut since you guys have praises.. Thanks anyway.

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Postby Plavt » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 4:09 pm

Yuanz has a point; SIA has for a number of years been voted either to or one of the most popular airlines, wonder if they can keep it up?

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Re: Discrmination

Postby kaozzzzzz » Tue, 23 Oct 2007 4:19 pm

Hate wrote:Hi guys,
Just to put on some comments..on what you all have wrote well I think some 'A' level student dun really speak fluent english from what I see in the stewardess more of a ah lian type. Scolding ppl in an ill manner, which I think is really horrible. I had experience before that they do not see on locals as guest to them only the expats are guest to them. We local are being treated very rudely.That's y noe I do not take SQ anymore. I think is enough for a one time experience. I think some gals whom are able to present themselves was turn dwn due to the qualifications reason. It seems that the 4 mths course include english course is abit useless to them.



:roll: Correct me if i am wrong...

I believe it's a two way thingy...If you (the general) are nice and polite to people, you'll get the same treatment back. Perhaps it was you who demand more than what was expected? Being humble would definetly bring you more pleasure and surprises in the flight to your destination.
Try taking budget airlines, and you'll get worst treatment...or perhaps just upgrade in future....

Also, I think alot of us here are trying hard to make up what you were typing. How would you classify fluent English?Your enlightenment please. Perhaps it was miscommunication that led to your unpleasant experience? They might be trying hard to understand throughout your trip.

From young, children of Singapore already knew that qualifications counts. When you grow up and look for a job, this is even more the case. A company has absolute rights in setting up the requirements. We should explore into other possibilites (joining another airline)if we do not have the right element. Anyway, you did joined Qatar and had advised others against it...(Refer to other threads posted)


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