You were mighty quick to point out that it was NOT his mother country. To me, that tells me you have no intentions of making Singapore you home either. So, with that in mind, why did you take up PR? Sounds to me like you just want to use the system like most of the other "New" PR's.vidya463 wrote:I am a PR and I did not apply PR for my son. He is on a student visa here and he has got the option to apply for PR if he decides to stay here after his studies. This is only to avoid NS, as he will be treated as 1st gen PR, ie., if he decides to stay here.ScoobyDoes wrote:As they say..... "Don't blame the Player, only the Game."
The "abuse" of the system was down to Government and Citizens. PR was too easy and given out willy nilly with no fixed format of how and when it would awarded. Citizens didn't complain, certainly not vocally and then only in the kopitiam.
The government at times were so desperate for PRs they over looked the system, and could do so because it didn't affect themselves or the citizens...... until it was too late. Then something more drastic needed to be done and this is where we are now.
It's incredible, here everybody complained PR was too easy and in Malaysia everybody complains PR is impossible to get. In this case i have to fully support the HK system or at least the way it used to be. Applications for PR only entertained after 7 full years of Temporary Residence and then only if you qualify - open and transparent.
I have undergone NS in my home country and I know the benefits. I would have definitly encouraged my son to undergo NS, but I do not want to commit on my son's behalf when he is still a minor (aged 14) and is not capable of taking his own decisions. In my opinion, this is the biggest drawback. Assuming that I commit him now, tomorrow he may not like it and blame me for that, which I want to avoid. Moreover, Singapore is not his mother country.
Instead, Govt of Singapore should give a choice to the person once they attain the age where they can take decisions, say 18, whether they should do NS and contiune to stay in Singapore or not, instead of asking the parents to commit on their sons' behalf and then hold them as defaulters.
It is true that foreigners get the benefits of socio-economic prosperity of singapore, but at the same time Singapore also gets the benefit of foreign talent and I would say, foreigners' contribution is as equal as singaporeans for creating this wonderful land. In my opinion, Govt of singapore is treating FT as some kind of beggers as far as NS is concerned, ie., their logic is " You have enjoyed the benefits so now you commit yourself or else....". Definitly this is not a matured policy.
Actually you have taken away one of your son's options already!
Let's hope he doesn't find a girlfriend here who will not leave Singapore but wants to have your son stay here. Guess what! You son may just end up hating you because he will have to leave Singapore after he finishes his schooling because of your shortsightedness. (He WON'T have the option of applying for PR when he finishes.) Furthermore, he will never be allowed to return to Singapore for anything other than a tourist.
The government has a long memory. If you take up PR and do not take up PR for your children, especially the male ones, the reason, to the gahmen, is obvious. Therefore he will have an extremely difficult time getting an EP at all, let alone PR. And guess who he's gonna blame for his predicament? And rightly so. It's a double edged sword and unfortunately, the loser, through no fault of his own, it the child. The child inherits the sins of the father who doesn't obviously think past the end of his nose, let alone 18 years into the future. Of course, he can apply for PR and they may well give it to him, but the codicil is that he will still have to do NS, regardless of whether he's on the PTS or the Family scheme. Yeah, he may well come to hate his parents especially if he spends all of his growing up years here and all his friends are here, etc., etc. You do your son a big disservice.