Entry-level Expatriate Salary Expectations

QRM · Post by **QRM** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:04 am

Ha I just figure out how to write like a bipolar Turk, I took intellectualmuse very sensible post

intellectualsmuse wrote:Trust me, I am honestly not trying to make "all harder". ( ) Anyways, on a serious note, you need to work on your language skills. I don't know any Russians here and I can't comprehend what you mean by "acceptable conditions" and "middle level skills"- all very very relative terms. But it would do you good to heed the advice people on the forum have shared. Unless you don't want any. Which makes me wonder why you are here?

Then using google translate, changed it from English to Greek, then Greek to Arabic, then Arabic to Chinese and finally back to English and I sound just like our Troll.

"Believe me, I really do not try to do "every team." (War) In any case, pay attention to big, we should be in language skills. I do not know any Russian now do not understand why the State "grace period" and "Intermediate skills" - the brother is all so serious, but they should attach importance to the Forum and the public, if you do not want any. This makes the problem here is why"

beppi · Post by **beppi** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 2:22 pm

Hahahahaha - QRM made my day!!!
Thanks a lot, now I know that broken English can be funny!
Let's try which combination of translates makes Singlish, Japlish or Hindlish!
Hahahaha!

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 3:40 pm

You actually made my day QRM. I was playing with babelfish over the weekend with this idjits posts trying to figure out where & how, but I never though to take a sane post and put it through several channels. Beaut!

Actually, I made a comment to that effect in my first post in this thread.....

sundaymorningstaple wrote:sarinho,

I don't want to be another one to burst your bubble, but your written English looks like you wrote it in Turkish or German and then put it into Babelfish.com and let it do the translation. It is virtually incomprehensible. If you speak the way you write, then you are going to have a very, very difficult time trying to land a job here. The only language that you have, that can be used here is English and the average Singaporean has a hard enough time with normal English from a Native English Speaker. Lord knows how they are going to understand you. I am having a hard time as well. I've would have to agree with beppi. You English may well be good by Turkish standards, but by a native English speaker standards, it does leave a lot to be desired, regardless of what you personally might think.

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 7:45 pm

beppi wrote:Interesting that somebody living in America cannot spell Seattle correctly and makes the same type of grammar, interpunctuation and vocabulary mistakes as the earlier poster Sarinho. Have the two of them posted from the same IP address?

Later edit:
Hmm, SMS was faster than me and already clarified that the two are the same and trying to fool us. Thanks, SMS! I will stop communicating with this dubious character (whom I also had some PM exchanges with, trying to help - but there he also accused me of ignorance and being wrong for stating the obvious!).

Check below posting.whıch ıs of Russıan forums.
There ,you will have some issues regarding actuall salaries...
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Может кому-то будет интересно!

К вашему вниманию топ высокооплачиваемых должностей в Сингапуре.
Данные по каждой строчке усредненные, без учета премий и "левых"
инвестиционных доходов.

Here’s the top 100 best-paying jobs:
1. Specialised surgeon - $30,755
2. Managing director - $24,472
3. General surgeon - $17,872
4. Commodities futures broker - $17,464
5. General manager - $16,667
6. Company director - $15,513
7. Creative director (Advertising) - $13,000
8. Legal service manager - $12,318
9. Foreign exchange dealer and broker - $11,095
10. Operations manager (Finance) - $9,808
11. Legal officer - $9,790
12. Risk management manager - $9,600
13. Research and development manager - $9,385
14. Computer operations and network manager - $9,300
15. Training manager - $9,000
16. Computer and information systems manager - $8,930
17. Ship-master - $8,671
18. Technical manager - $8,595
19. Financial futures dealer and broker - $8,447
20. Personnel / Human resource manager - $8,420
21. Business development manager - $8,290
22. Corporate planning manager - $8,290
23. Fund manager - $8,125
24. Treasury manager - $8,079
25. Budgeting and financial accounting manager - $8,000
26. Marketing manager - $8,000
27. Power generation and distribution engineer - $7,848
28. Engineering manager - $7,819
29. Chemical engineer (Petroleum) - $7,678
30. Manufacturing plant and production manager - $7,645
31. Chemical engineer (Petrochemicals) - $7,547
32. Advertising and public relations manager - $7,533
33. Advocate and solicitor - $7,500
34. Operations research analyst - $7,500
35. Business management consultant - $7,437
36. Procurement manager - $7,416
37. Lawyer (except advocate and solicitor) - $7,400
38. Quality assurance manager - $7,263
39. Customer service manager - $7,142
40. Sales manager - $7,100
41. Logistics manager - $7,050
42. Operations manager (Commerce) - $6,862
43. Chemical engineering technician (Petroleum) - $6,696
44. Automation engineer - $6,680
45. Instrumentation engineer - $6,616
46. Book editor - $6,538
47. Surveyor - $6,523
48. Industrial health, safety and environment engineer - $6,503
49. Building architect - $6,500
50. Transport operations manager - $6,400
51. Editor (Newspapers and periodicals) - $6,369
52. Marine superintendent engineer - $6,340
53. Audio and video equipment engineer - $6,307
54. Premises maintenance manager - $6,304
55. Personal banker - $6,250
56. Chemist - $6,241
57. Electrical engineering technician (High voltage) - $6,225
58. Business analyst - $6,205
59. General physician - $6,173
60. Administration manager - $6,150
61. Financial analyst - $6,000
62. Securities dealer and broker - $5,750
63. Shipping manager - $5,721
64. Building and construction project manager - $5,720
65. property / Estate manager - $5,715
66. Physicist - $5,700
67. Editor (Radio, television and video) - $5,658
68. Information technology security specialist - $5,646
69. Advertising copywriter - $5,600
70. Director (Stage, film, television and radio) - $5,512
71. Automotive engineer - $5,500
72. Naval architect - $5,480
73. Chemical engineering technician (Petrochemicals) - $5,424
74. Chinese physician - $5,316
75. Financial planner - $5,283
76. Aeronautical engineer - $5,242
77. Chemical engineer (General) - $5,187
78. Broadcasting operations technician - $5,178
79. Market research analyst - $5,174
80. Producer / Director of commercials - $5,150
81. Manufacturing engineer - $5,137
82. Systems programmer - $5,111
83. Actuary - $5,100
84. Production engineer - $5,091
85. Sales representative (Technicial) - $5,089
86. Database administrator - $5,080
87. Semi-conductor engineer - $5,035
88. Mechanical engineer - $5,000
89. Ship rigger - $4,933
90. Systems designer and analyst - $4,914
91. Network systems and data communication analyst - $4,894
92. Sales representative (Medical and pharmaceutical products) - $4,857
93. Flight operations officer - $4,801
94. Civil engineer - $4,746
95. Script writer - $4,740
96. Warehousing manager - $4,706
97. Materials engineer - $4,689
98. Electrical engineer - $4,665
99. Credit analyst - $4,631
100. Electronics engineer - $4,615

This list is compiled based on data from MOM Occupational Wages.

Желаю всем оказаться в первых строчках этого парада ( i wish that all professions will have the tops in salaries,as listening on above clasifications )

Удачи! ( good luck )

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 8:13 pm

februus wrote:come off it. how can someone with such poor syntax manage to spell everything correctly. on-line translators only work if everything is spelled right in the native language otherwise it just returns the word as the original. even as a uk citizen (and relatively educated one, with a specific interest in the language) i still make spelling mistakes. sarinho/pac have managed to avoid a single one so far.

definitely a translator......

you are the man

we are human,not a perfect exsistences.

People ,here in this forum are prejudiced.They should consider my nationality,while stating comments.

Are you now in Singapore?

regards

beppi · Post by **beppi** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 8:58 pm

>Are you now in Singapore?

No.
Should I be?

What is prejudiced about saying that a non-native English speaker speaks non-native (which means not perfect) English?
You made it worse (and invited the ridicule) by insisting that your English is fluent and not worse, just different.
But, truth be told, this made the threat quite entertaining - until your post above with the Russian top salaries, which isn't very funny.

Plavt · Post by **Plavt** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 9:08 pm

Hey Sarinho,

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 9:09 pm

You will also notice the various spelling errors in sarinho's last two posts because he wasn't using a translator but his own attempts at English.

Sarinho, you could have saved yourself a lot of embarrassment and frustration and ridicule if you had just come clean in the beginning instead of trying to defend an indefensible position.

Beppi, they are salaries for Singapore positions, not Russian ones.

Post by **Strong Eagle** » Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:22 pm

QRM wrote:Ha I just figure out how to write like a bipolar Turk, I took intellectualmuse very sensible post

intellectualsmuse wrote:Trust me, I am honestly not trying to make "all harder". ( ) Anyways, on a serious note, you need to work on your language skills. I don't know any Russians here and I can't comprehend what you mean by "acceptable conditions" and "middle level skills"- all very very relative terms. But it would do you good to heed the advice people on the forum have shared. Unless you don't want any. Which makes me wonder why you are here?
Then using google translate, changed it from English to Greek, then Greek to Arabic, then Arabic to Chinese and finally back to English and I sound just like our Troll.

"Believe me, I really do not try to do "every team." (War) In any case, pay attention to big, we should be in language skills. I do not know any Russian now do not understand why the State "grace period" and "Intermediate skills" - the brother is all so serious, but they should attach importance to the Forum and the public, if you do not want any. This makes the problem here is why"

That's ferking great! I may have to run all my weekly status reports through the channels you used before I submit them.

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 3:36 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:You will also notice the various spelling errors in sarinho's last two posts because he wasn't using a translator but his own attempts at English.

Sarinho, you could have saved yourself a lot of embarrassment and frustration and ridicule if you had just come clean in the beginning instead of trying to defend an indefensible position.

Beppi, they are salaries for Singapore positions, not Russian ones.

i am not discussing more about skillls or usage of english,it is all about realities of living standarts......(Formal records,released in 2009 by MOM)

although ,i say that these listenings are from MOM,some of the chatters still do not believe .....

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 3:40 am

Plavt wrote:Hey Sarinho,

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

you are not in singapore and not the right one,whom i need to talk more about all

sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss keep your silence

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 3:57 am

beppi wrote:>Are you now in Singapore?

No.
Should I be?

What is prejudiced about saying that a non-native English speaker speaks non-native (which means not perfect) English?
You made it worse (and invited the ridicule) by insisting that your English is fluent and not worse, just different.
But, truth be told, this made the threat quite entertaining - until your post above with the Russian top salaries, which isn't very funny.

just consider the recent posting of SMS,in that, you will see the truth about the official records of salaries,released in 2009 by MOM.

people try to apply only the simple way ,such being prejudiced

just try to obtain some information,before stating commets!

observer · Post by **observer** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:09 am

Sorry man, you lost all respect and credibility when you replied yourself with bogus accounts. Never mind your obnoxious and delusional self glorification.

sarinho · Post by **sarinho** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 7:13 pm

observer wrote:Sorry man, you lost all respect and credibility when you replied yourself with bogus accounts. Never mind your obnoxious and delusional self glorification.

do not worry,respect is something relative which is not so easy to describe.

sorry ,you are not the person who will tell me about that abstract concept.

QRM · Post by **QRM** » Tue, 06 Jul 2010 7:39 pm

sarinho wrote: do not worry,respect is something relative which is not so easy to describe.

sorry ,you are not the person who will tell me about that abstract concept.

Now here is the uncanny thing I put Sarinho post through the same Greek-Arab-Chinese process and it comes out almost the same?!

"Do not worry, respect is relatively easy to describe. Sorry, you are not a person who told me that this abstract concept"

It does prove the GIBBERISH IN Gibberish OUT theory is true.

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