Bombshelters????

carteki · Post by **carteki** » Mon, 10 May 2010 10:25 am

x9200 wrote:I believe all newly built properties have to have it b law.

Since when has this been applicable? My apartment block was built in 2005-7 and they don't have bomb shelters. But I do have a maids room with cupboards, shower and window (but no maid so its used for storage)

sundaymorningstaple wrote:And therein lies the problem. This stuff happens all over the world. You read about one incidence a month in another country and one incidence here a month. The difference? Percentages of the population that commit these offenses. If the percentage here is higher than elsewhere, then the tar tends to stick and everybody unfortunately gets tarred with the same brush.

Okay, but what about the lack of legal protection? What about the "suggested" 1 day a month off for example? The laws in Singapore don't help the situation at all - in fact they reinforce the "bad".

Post by **sundaymorningstaple** » Mon, 10 May 2010 11:24 am

Again, as brought up by somebody else, bad by whose reckoning? Nothing stopping giving them off every Sunday. Just like MOM says you have to give a minimum of 7 days Annual Leave to new employees. Nothing stopping the employer giving 21 days or 30 days. Just depends on company policy. 7 days annual leave sucks but that the "minimum" set by law. If it were set at 21 or 30 days/year, it may cause a lot of companies to rethink their salary policies. Same with the maids. It used to be no days mandatory/month for the maids when I first came here. It was "recommended" that they get 1 days off per month. It's only recently that it has been enshrined into the contracts.

If you stop to think about it, have you every wonder how Chinese businessmen keep working for 351 days a years (commercial premises) without out taking a day off? The do this every year but take off the 2 weeks of the CNY. Should there be a law requiring them to close up shop on every Sunday? Different culture. But again, the laws are only for the minimums. The maximums are up to you and the maid. If she wants every Sunday off, then she may or may not find an employer willing to do so. Their choice and her choice whether to accept. Just like the negotiations we all did on the contracts that got us over here in the first place. Some take a job for 2K/mo and other get 8k/mo for the same job because the refuse the take the salary offered.

Takes two to tango!

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 10 May 2010 11:25 am

carteki wrote:
x9200 wrote:I believe all newly built properties have to have it b law.
Since when has this been applicable? My apartment block was built in 2005-7 and they don't have bomb shelters. But I do have a maids room with cupboards, shower and window (but no maid so its used for storage)

From around that time. Our was finalized in 2008 and already has one.

gravida · Post by **gravida** » Mon, 10 May 2010 1:33 pm

Not truth. It was in 1997 when the law came into operation:

http://www.scdf.gov.sg/building_profess ... elter.html

So, carteki, your building most likely has a bomb shelter for the entire floor, as there is an option: household or storey shelters

The enactment of the CD Shelter Act 1997 on 7 Oct 97 made it compulsory for all new houses and flats to be built with shelters (owners/developers have the option to build either household or storey shelters in their developments). A grace period of 6 months was given before the Act came into effect on 1 May 98. This allowed building industry practitioners to adapt to the new policy.

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 10 May 2010 2:20 pm

We are talking about a bit different thing - PERSONAL bomb shelters. According to our agent all the new condos as per the dates mentioned (roughly) should be equipped in the personal ones. I never verified this information though.
Unless this is some kind of market driven need it makes no other sense for me to have it except there would be a law behind it. It is surely much more expensive comparing to a normal room and judging from all the savings and poor quality materials used in our condo it simply makes the words of the agent pretty credible.

gravida · Post by **gravida** » Mon, 10 May 2010 3:01 pm

Well, that's why some of the house DO HAVE personal bomb shelters and some DO NOT. There is no law saying you have to have personal bomb shelter, but there is a law saying there must be either shelter for the entire storey or household.

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 10 May 2010 3:17 pm

gravida wrote:Well, that's why some of the house DO HAVE personal bomb shelters and some DO NOT. There is no law saying you have to have personal bomb shelter, but there is a law saying there must be either shelter for the entire storey or household.

Lets make it simple: which condo DO NOT have it after the said 2008 for example? I guess one name will do

gravida · Post by **gravida** » Mon, 10 May 2010 3:47 pm

x9200, once I will find one, I will let you know for sure

QRM · Post by **QRM** » Mon, 10 May 2010 4:04 pm

x9200 wrote:
gravida wrote:Well, that's why some of the house DO HAVE personal bomb shelters and some DO NOT. There is no law saying you have to have personal bomb shelter, but there is a law saying there must be either shelter for the entire storey or household.
Lets make it simple: which condo DO NOT have it after the said 2008 for example? I guess one name will do

Four of the top of my head dont have personal bomb shelters. ( not sure of the dates though )

The Loft
Grange residence
St Regis Residence
Lady hill

24601 · Post by **24601** » Mon, 10 May 2010 4:59 pm

Funny that this went an entirely different way to which I intended (of course in part due to myself!) The initial post was more a shock that the Government still clearly thinks we all need bomb shelters which makes moving to the country that little bit more scary.......

BigSis · Post by **BigSis** » Mon, 10 May 2010 5:26 pm

Bombshelters apparently make good wine cellars and of course should anything ever happen for you to actually need to use it for its intended purpose, you would at least be well stocked up (so long as you remembered to keep a corkscrew in there)

24601 · Post by **24601** » Mon, 10 May 2010 5:32 pm

Haha excellent advice big sis. Though with the price of wine in Singapore could anyone afford to fill a whole cellar?!?

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 10 May 2010 5:53 pm

QRM wrote: Four of the top of my head dont have personal bomb shelters. ( not sure of the dates though )

The Loft
Grange residence
St Regis Residence
Lady hill

St Regis is 2008, the rest older. But then... actually a date should be counted from the time the construction is approved, not 2008 for sure.... Anyway, I guess it is nt that important

Post by **x9200** » Mon, 10 May 2010 5:58 pm

24601 wrote:Haha excellent advice big sis. Though with the price of wine in Singapore could anyone afford to fill a whole cellar?!?

...and have it turned into acid at the temperatures of an average bombshelter. Not everybody is like Ksl

BigSis · Post by **BigSis** » Mon, 10 May 2010 10:42 pm

24601 wrote:Haha excellent advice big sis. Though with the price of wine in Singapore could anyone afford to fill a whole cellar?!?

yes, I have to admit I have wondered that myself as I queue up in Giant with my $15 bottle of wine because it was the cheapest I could find

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