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Re: penatly for theft case

Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 4:36 am

r0nq428 wrote:Hi, my sis was caught for shoplifting at some shopping mall with her friend two years ago. That was their first offence. Recently their IO called them up and asked them down for further investigation. From what i know, my sis stole 2-3 merchandise.
Can i know what are the penalty she will likely to face?


Herewith is the description and the punishment in blue of the Penal Code 379 to 381
Theft
378. Whoever, intending to take dishonestly any movable property out of the possession of any person without that person’s consent, moves that property in order to such taking, is said to commit prevtheftnext.

Explanation 1.—A thing so long as it is attached to the earth, not being movable property, is not the subject of prevtheftnext; but it becomes capable of being the subject of prevtheftnext as soon as it is severed from the earth.

Explanation 2.—A moving, effected by the same act which effects the severance, may be a prevtheftnext.

Explanation 3.—A person is said to cause a thing to move by removing an obstacle which prevented it from moving, or by separating it from any other thing, as well as by actually moving it.

Explanation 4.—A person, who by any means causes an animal to move, is said to move that animal, and to move everything which in consequence of the motion so caused is moved by that animal.

Explanation 5.—The consent mentioned in the definition may be express or implied, and may be given either by the person in possession, or by any person having for that purpose authority either express or implied.


Punishment
379. Whoever commits theft shall be punished with imprisonment prevfornext a term which may extend to 3 years, or with fine, or with both.

[Indian PC 1860, s. 379]
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Postby r0nq428 » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 1:23 pm

so meaning that she and her friend will be put to jail or fine or both? But i heard if it's first offence most likely will be just giving out warning?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 2:55 pm

r0nq428 wrote:so meaning that she and her friend will be put to jail or fine or both? But i heard if it's first offence most likely will be just giving out warning?


Are you one the accomplice ?

Where did you hear this first offense will be given a warning from?

Look, the law is there for you interpret . You do the crime , you do the time.

The only one that can decide is the judge in the court of law if the IO makes a case against both of the offender. Then you go to the subcourt. A fine will be most definitely for first time offender. A jail if it is a serious or repeat offender or both .
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Postby r0nq428 » Wed, 09 Jun 2010 2:59 pm

alright, now i get a clearer picture of it. thanks for the advise anyway.

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Postby crunkbabee » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 4:37 pm

thanks to all of those who replied my queries...my nephew got off with a warning. this was really lucky considering it is his second offence but they did a heavy background check this time from family to his sch background..so i guess for those who are worried about your family/friends case, if they've got a good background they should be fine i guess? if not, get a lawyer.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 11 Aug 2010 5:28 pm

crunkbabee wrote:thanks to all of those who replied my queries...my nephew got off with a warning. this was really lucky considering it is his second offence but they did a heavy background check this time from family to his sch background..so i guess for those who are worried about your family/friends case, if they've got a good background they should be fine i guess? if not, get a lawyer.


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Postby destinyfree » Wed, 05 Jan 2011 6:24 am

hi there r0nq428,

any updates for your friend case?

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Re: Arrested for theft in singapore

Postby mac_t13 » Mon, 17 Jan 2011 3:15 pm

crunkbabee wrote:Hello, a family member recently was charged with shoptheft. This is her second time getting arrested. First was an encounter at BHG and she was let off with a warning.

However 3 years later, she stole a phone. She returned the phone after to the owner and the owner called the police. Her reason in doing so was because she wanted to cover the last semester of her school fees. Her dad works odd jobs and her mom left her a year ago and she still has a brother who is studying thus times were hard for her.

Does any of you here knows what is the likely charges she will receive? she is currently 20 years old.Is there any possibilities for leniency due to her reasons? and the already returned it cus she felt guilty after that. Will she get a sentence or a fine? If so, how long and how much?

I could really use some help on this. Thank you :)


Hi, I now also facing the same problems. I theft a few items about $200 at supermarket, 1st offence. At the security room, I took out all the things but they still insisted to report police. 2 weeks later need to be back to see IO. May I know will the IO highly pressure on me. I've no intention of stealing and now I'm reaching out for help by seeing doctor at IMH and counselling. I need help and wanted to get help! thanks.

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Postby mac_t13 » Mon, 17 Jan 2011 3:22 pm

I'm very guilty and I'm the caregiven of my 4 years old girl. I have enough money at the 1st place and i did it, i just couldn't explaint. I just hoping no imprisonment. I really at a loss now.

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Postby mac_t13 » Mon, 17 Jan 2011 3:23 pm

Is it after 2 weeks i going back to see IO and I will know when they will going to charge me?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:21 am

mac_t13 wrote:Is it after 2 weeks i going back to see IO and I will know when they will going to charge me?


OK, no need to cry baby and PM me.

I just came back from holidays. Holidays also people PM and sms me for help . Like that where got time to relax
You can do two things.

Admit the offense. Under the Penal code a fine will suffice for first time offender unless you are not telling us the whole picture then all bets off the table

OR
engage a lawyer if it goes to court 23 or court 24 if the IO charge you for more deterrent punishment
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:59 am

Hey MS! Don't you know, when you go on hols you leave the phone and notebook home! Otherwise it ain't a holiday!

Welcome back anyway! :lol:

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 19 Jan 2011 3:46 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Hey MS! Don't you know, when you go on hols you leave the phone and notebook home! Otherwise it ain't a holiday!

Welcome back anyway! :lol:


Thanks buddy. I was planning to go to the Rhines or Black Forest in Austria but the weather does not permit me. So.... we went skiing and some ice fishing. Did not bring the PC along as coverage was poor and my damn phone cannot access to e-mail but did went down to town to check e-mails from time to time.
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Postby poodlek » Wed, 19 Jan 2011 4:03 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Hey MS! Don't you know, when you go on hols you leave the phone and notebook home! Otherwise it ain't a holiday!

Welcome back anyway! :lol:


Thanks buddy. I was planning to go to the Rhines or Black Forest in Austria but the weather does not permit me. So.... we went skiing and some ice fishing. Did not bring the PC along as coverage was poor and my damn phone cannot access to e-mail but did went down to town to check e-mails from time to time.


I can't imagine anyone bringing a PC ice fishing! Anyway, where I come from "ice fishing" is a euphemism for "getting blindingly drunk with the boys".
I hope you had a nice relaxing holiday!

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Postby wantonoodles » Fri, 21 Jan 2011 6:03 pm

Hi all,

Just wanna share that I made a silly mistake resulting in being charged for shoptheft. I forgot to pay for my mechandise which I left in a plastic bag when I left the supermarket. I am 25 male with no past records of any sorts before.

Police was called it and it was truly embrassing to walk out of the supermarket in handcuffs.

The IO told me that I would be given a warning on the account that it was my first time being arrested and the item was not a high value item. (It was just daily shaving blades).

I am due to go back to the station 1 week later to hand in my bail form.

Firstly, am I expected to recieve the verdict when I hand in the form? I seen previous entry that it took them 2-3 years to charge them?

2ndly, issit the IO that calls the final verdict? I am so afraid if they approach the supermarket again because they were bent on charging me. Not even giving me any second to explain. "Go talk to the police, Now shut up."

3rdly, a mistake is a mistake, I do admit it. How much roughly would the fine be.


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