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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 May 2010 12:32 pm

Seems like most of 'em are trying to apply for PR with less than a year of service here and they are getting bounced regularly. Or don't you read the other posts here? :?
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Post by ksl » Wed, 05 May 2010 4:57 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:SMS,
Although Singaporeflyer, if true, will have a lot of sad stories to tell all his mates from the Subcontinent if you have already been here for 2.5 years.

What do u mean by the above?
The ICA FAQ should clear up any doubts
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/ica/apps/fcd_faqmain.aspx

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 May 2010 5:17 pm

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singaporeflyer wrote:SMS,
Although Singaporeflyer, if true, will have a lot of sad stories to tell all his mates from the Subcontinent if you have already been here for 2.5 years.

What do u mean by the above?
The ICA FAQ should clear up any doubts
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/ica/apps/fcd_faqmain.aspx
That's mentally too hard for most who are applying now days. They'd rather we did it for them. But it is interesting that they have changed it officially now. Maybe the two I'm aware of who got it recently actually applied prior to the official change. But as late as July 2009 I know they were still getting them after 12 months.
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Post by Mad Scientist » Wed, 05 May 2010 5:54 pm

SMS

Precisely my question to Singaporeflyer. Time is 5.40 pm. I just put down the phone with my infos in ICA.

Everything is a go slow since Jan 2010.

On another issue

You are very observant on the pro rata equation on population census.
The ratio is always 6,3 0.5, 0.5

This is very true. Remember the riots in 65 and 67.

So this balance quota in population census is always there.

On top of that each ethnic group is again being controlled in the location of their residence.
E.g In Geylang a Malay cannot sell their HDB to a Malay but can sell it to other race like Chinese or Indian

For Immigration itself

Malay M'sian cannot get PR or almost impossible . This is a direct retaliation to M'sia policy on Chinese there years ago and to control the quota system in SG
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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 May 2010 6:06 pm

SMS,

>>But it is interesting that they have changed it officially now. Maybe the two I'm aware of who got it recently actually applied prior to the official change. But as late as July 2009 I know they were still getting them after 12 months.

What has officially changed now?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 May 2010 6:20 pm

Edited due to ksl not paying attention to what we are talking about and me working and trying to answer silly questions here at the same time!

:oops!: :shit:

ksl, next time please pay attention to what the thread is all about okay? The link is for applying for citizenship and not for applying for PR. Big Difference!

Had me thinking Singaporeflyer was a bloomin' idjit when it was you with the RONG info! :mad:

Anyway, It could mean that you need to be here for up to THREE+ (3+) years if the new Annex A is anything to go by. The new Annex A can be found here:

http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/do ... ormEP4.pdf

See specifically 7(h)
(h) Payslips for the last 6 months and Income Tax Notices of Assessment for the last 3 years.
Obviously they are not talking about tax assessments for your work in another country. Now, of course they 'could' grant PR in a shorter span of time but seeing that MS's call to ICA today has produced a "go slow" in the granting of PR and the NEW (as of March 2010) Annex A to the EP4A (PTS Scheme) shows a requirement of producing documentary evidence of Tax returns for the previous three years, I'd say that is pretty conclusive.

And this might be one of the reasons KittyJules76 might be having a problem as well:
20. Should you change your residential address before the outcome of your application is known, you are required to inform ICA promptly.
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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 May 2010 6:24 pm

HI SMS,
Where is this officially quoted?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 May 2010 10:45 pm

My previous post has been edited.
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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 May 2010 10:57 pm

SMS,
ICA has been asking for tax slips for past 3 years since Jan 2008. It is not a new clause. I have seen the same one before last year. Just the PDF has been updated with March 2010 revision. Ill see if I can get the old one to post for

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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 May 2010 10:59 pm

SMS,
what do u mean by >> MS's call to ICA today has produced a "go slow"?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 05 May 2010 11:02 pm

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Post by singaporeflyer » Wed, 05 May 2010 11:20 pm

SMS,
what do u mean by >> MS's call to ICA today has produced a "go slow"?

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Post by Mad Scientist » Thu, 06 May 2010 5:49 am

singaporeflyer wrote:SMS,
what do u mean by >> MS's call to ICA today has produced a "go slow"?
You seems to know more than us put together. I have high respect for SMS for his indepth knowledge of the MOM and ICA.
Hence I asked SMS if I miss something and he did replied which make sense to me.
Even I , puzzled by your sudden outflow of answers on your previous posts.
I queried you and you just said go to ICA website. DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT !!!!
Tell us something that we do not know hence my call to ICA which I hate to do just to reconfirm what you posted. Here we are trying to help others to give informed decision and you came brandishing with something we already know about

Get the picture ?? Or is it too difficult to understand
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Post by wcs » Thu, 06 May 2010 6:19 am

When I submitted my PR application late last year, they wanted copies of all my transcripts from uni and high school, degree certs, high school diploma, but actually rejected my aus income tax returns. They said they did not need them despite being listed on the form. I am not going to argue if the govt wants less information about me rather than more! :)

Then again I am still waiting for PR! :) Am hoping I am about halfway through now. :) Only time will tell though.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 May 2010 6:46 am

If one were to think about this from a government POV, it says, on the Annex A, to submit the last three years tax returns AND the last 6 months Salary Slips. From a practical POV, what would the government care about tax returns submitted to other countries for salaries earned there before coming to Singapore? You are not applying for a PEP which is the only one that requires Foreign Income proof. It would make sense to require the last three years of Singapore Tax returns so as to prove your employment record here in Singapore. The last 6 months salary vouchers would indicate that you are STILL gainfully employed, so that they don't have to worry about giving you PR and you becoming a ward of the state. While it doesn't say Singapore Tax returns, using a bit of common sense and deductive reasoning would tell you that is what they are looking for. (something I notice seems to be in short supply with the recent batch of PR hopefuls)

I've had two children of my own and I'm currently taking care of a 2 year old grand-niece, but this the the first time I've had to spoon-feed fully grown, supposedly educated, adults. :???:
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