Vaucluse wrote:anneteoh wrote:Plavt wrote:
Who says they don't? Recent renovation work where I live has been done by good number of Romanians who don't work for less than Britons and a good many Poles live here too who also pay taxes.
Hard to say, some do but not all pay taxes; esp. those in businesses or privately employed e.g. cleaners, builders, plumbers, waiters etc
Some don't? How many born and bred Britons don't pay taxes? Who pays these immigrants who don't declare income? A plumber fixes a pipe for you and you say you don't need a receipt if he knocks 50 off . . . who is the culprit?
Why shouldn't they? We do the same given the opportunity.
If 200,000 send 50% of their money back, there'll be less left for circulation in the country.
A fatuous argument at best. At any given time there are 6.329.450.660.000 sterling in circulation. Do you really believe that a few waiters and plumbers sending money home is depleting the country's reserves? That's simply laughable
Perhaps you believe some of the media-hype; a good number of immigrants aren't entitled to benefits unless they have been here X number of years. Although there is probably some substance in what you say, I have to admit I don't know the full details since I'm not an immigrant.
I didn't get this from any direct source but from what I SEE going around me. I know very well what go on in a lot of schools for sure. Visit any hospital and there'll be crowds of people speaking different tongues, looking shabby and smelly etc...who can deny such needs; but economics is a hard task master.\
Wow, looking shabby and smelly? I thought, initially, that your posts were not too bad, but this one is well below par. Smelly and shabby . . .speaking different languages . . . May I suggest that what you SEE is a fraction of a fraction of society . . . perhaps you should move to a better area . . .
The only good thing I can see at the moment is Cameron can't get his own way on every issue, only time will tell of course.
Yes, as long as he's not self-righteous. They might end up being the 'holier than thous' as someone's already put it. The first few weeks might be good indicators, but change needs time.
Self-righteous? In what way? I'm thinking that if anything the stance on immigration will become stronger . . . how did the BNP fare?
Quite a sad post for your standards, anne
Yes, indeed. That's why I can't be a politician. As my Chinese friends used to say about communisn, Nan zuo ren, zuo ren nan - It's difficult to be human, human to be difficult.
I don't know if you were to put the same person in two different domains - one living in an economically successful country and the other in present day Britain with an impressively insurmountable national debt ( 168 billions? ) in its present context, what can come out as solutions.
I live in a not too bad area, but there're lots of immigrants, at the fringe areas like most places in London and the UK as a whole, from what I've heard. I mean, it's great to see you guys speaking up for immigrants - I believe people always migrate myself - since the days Out of Africa. I must be depressed, sometimes on my way to work, driving past a long line of groups of blue collar immigrants waiting on the kerbs for their labouring jobs, having my travel wallet stolen by a couple of gypsy women in a shop, witnessing the daily arrivals of new students with no English in secondary schools etc. It is a strange experience, I suppose.
I'm sorry it sounds so depressing. To me, London today is very different from that of 20 years ago. You'll have to live here to notice how times have changed.
But you're right. People of all backgrounds have the right to look for ways to make their lives better. But can the social services stretch that far for so much longer? What other ways can you think of to use resources that can create production output and profitable gains, err, instead of draining the national wealth? So are you saying, you oppose the new government's act to stop all non-EU immigrants only?
The BNP did extremely badly - in Barking and Dagenham. It was difficult to gauge how they would fare in the elections. They won the European seat; but beyond extreme racism, they also have very narrow-minded views about global busineses. Anyway, I do feel sorry for them too.
Sad, indeed. I don't really think one can ever speak fairly in politics. It's a relative zone.