

You can bet Blair is laughing his socks off, god what a sleeze ball he is, arse hole creeper, though that's the way for quick promotion.raden888 wrote:...I wonder if Tony Blair is having a good chuckle at this!so now looks like Nick Clegg is the front runner!
I prefer studying entrails myself - preferably politicians' entrails!sundaymorningstaple wrote:ksl, I've got some crystal pyramids you can consult if you run out of astrological and the Chinese zodiac. Think I've also got a old deck of tarot cards I'll throw in as well.
I'm keeping myself amused on a boring day, with the wife and daughter in Taiwan, i have another 6 days to get throughAddadude wrote:I prefer studying entrails myself - preferably politicians' entrails!sundaymorningstaple wrote:ksl, I've got some crystal pyramids you can consult if you run out of astrological and the Chinese zodiac. Think I've also got a old deck of tarot cards I'll throw in as well.
Some politicians make some people so sick that they turn to ridicule. If Guy Fawkes succeeded, we'll be stuck in the middle ages - or feudalism as China sees it.ksl wrote:I'm keeping myself amused on a boring day, with the wife and daughter in Taiwan, i have another 6 days to get throughAddadude wrote:I prefer studying entrails myself - preferably politicians' entrails!sundaymorningstaple wrote:ksl, I've got some crystal pyramids you can consult if you run out of astrological and the Chinese zodiac. Think I've also got a old deck of tarot cards I'll throw in as well.This is me by the way
http://astrocenter.astrology.msn.com/ms ... d=20080729
Though the topic is surprisingly interesting, I don't expect much change to happen in the UK, until Guy Fawkes gets it right (A figure of speech of course)Why live in the dark ages for so long I will never know!
The extreme immigration of eastern Europeans may have a positive end for the better, breaking down the society and building a new, is just part of the cycle of evolution and migration, it could also cure many unsolved political agendas, everyone is looking for democracy except those in real power to deliver it! The scary thing is, a copy cat of Rasputin or a Putin
The UK is well and truly infiltrated by many with motives, though the house is still partying drinking PG tips with the chimps!
Or do i have to remind you what happened in Singapore, with all the guns pointing in the wrong direction ha! Leadership how
David Cameron stepped in as the new PM last night - how casual it sounds, for major governmental tranfers to take place in the evenings. In fact, for an hour or so there was a power vacuum - all too well for apolitical people but not good enough for serious voters and national security. But the Queen was there of course.Nath21 wrote:Ten reasons why Uk is in trouble:
1. went from an oil exporter to oil importer,
2. lost its manufacturing export base which saw it lead the industrial revolution;
3. currently 6 out of 10 people employed by the public service;
4. 40% of GDP comes from the financial services industry which is in a
big hole;
5. UK failure to stop unfunded pension plans;
6. Use and encourangement of UK based tax havens for tax avoidance by high income individuals;
7. attendace at war it cant afford;
8. Amount of money the government has to fund just to service debt;
9. Close election wont enable another party to fix any of this; and
10. Labor in government for too long overseeing these outcomes and policies
Understand your concerns, Plavt. I guess I'm a diehard hopefulPlavt wrote:6 Billion out of the economy = more unemployment and lost homes, fewer taxpayers.
More unemployment = more claims for benefit.
More claims for benefit = more cost to taxpayer.
Problem: The fewer taxpayers the less money for benefits, the UK is already shelling out more in benefits than if receives in taxes so where will the extra cash come from?
Stop EU immigration = stop the availability of workers the UK needs!
No tax under £10,000 sounds nice but if the rents go through the roof as a result of his likely spending cuts in the public sector then the poor will probably gain nothing.
Reform the electoral system, oh yes it needs reforming but from what I can see if he gets his way only to benefit him and his cronies, I don't see why any government should be there more than 4 years.
Equal and stable society? All words again I don't even want to think about the social unrest his policies will generate.
Who says they don't? Recent renovation work where I live has been done by good number of Romanians who don't work for less than Britons and a good many Poles live here too who also pay taxes.anneteoh wrote: I'm not a racist, but I agree with stopping the Eastern Europeans and unskilled immigrants ; with these conditions:
1. they pay taxes like everyone else
Why shouldn't they? We do the same given the opportunity.2. they do not send their money back to their own countries
Perhaps you believe some of the media-hype; a good number of immigrants aren't entitled to benefits unless they have been here X number of years. Although there is probably some substance in what you say, I have to admit I don't know the full details since I'm not an immigrant.3. they have to pay sufficient contributions before they can get benefits, health care, housing, free transportation for kids and over 60s.
Yes, as long as he's not self-righteous. They might end up being the 'holier than thous' as someone's already put it. The first few weeks might be good indicators, but change needs time.Plavt wrote: Who says they don't? Recent renovation work where I live has been done by good number of Romanians who don't work for less than Britons and a good many Poles live here too who also pay taxes.
Hard to say, some do but not all pay taxes; esp. those in businesses or privately employed e.g. cleaners, builders, plumbers, waiters etc
Why shouldn't they? We do the same given the opportunity.2. they do not send their money back to their own countries
If 200,000 send 50% of their money back, there'll be less left for circulation in the country.
Perhaps you believe some of the media-hype; a good number of immigrants aren't entitled to benefits unless they have been here X number of years. Although there is probably some substance in what you say, I have to admit I don't know the full details since I'm not an immigrant.3. they have to pay sufficient contributions before they can get benefits, health care, housing, free transportation for kids and over 60s.
I didn't get this from any direct source but from what I SEE going around me. I know very well what go on in a lot of schools for sure. Visit any hospital and there'll be crowds of people speaking different tongues, looking shabby and smelly etc...who can deny such needs; but economics is a hard task master.
The only good thing I can see at the moment is Cameron can't get his own way on every issue, only time will tell of course.
Quite a sad post for your standards, anneanneteoh wrote:Yes, as long as he's not self-righteous. They might end up being the 'holier than thous' as someone's already put it. The first few weeks might be good indicators, but change needs time.Plavt wrote:
Who says they don't? Recent renovation work where I live has been done by good number of Romanians who don't work for less than Britons and a good many Poles live here too who also pay taxes.
Hard to say, some do but not all pay taxes; esp. those in businesses or privately employed e.g. cleaners, builders, plumbers, waiters etc
Some don't? How many born and bred Britons don't pay taxes? Who pays these immigrants who don't declare income? A plumber fixes a pipe for you and you say you don't need a receipt if he knocks 50 off . . . who is the culprit?
Why shouldn't they? We do the same given the opportunity.2. they do not send their money back to their own countries
If 200,000 send 50% of their money back, there'll be less left for circulation in the country.
A fatuous argument at best. At any given time there are 6.329.450.660.000 sterling in circulation. Do you really believe that a few waiters and plumbers sending money home is depleting the country's reserves? That's simply laughable
Perhaps you believe some of the media-hype; a good number of immigrants aren't entitled to benefits unless they have been here X number of years. Although there is probably some substance in what you say, I have to admit I don't know the full details since I'm not an immigrant.3. they have to pay sufficient contributions before they can get benefits, health care, housing, free transportation for kids and over 60s.
I didn't get this from any direct source but from what I SEE going around me. I know very well what go on in a lot of schools for sure. Visit any hospital and there'll be crowds of people speaking different tongues, looking shabby and smelly etc...who can deny such needs; but economics is a hard task master.\
Wow, looking shabby and smelly? I thought, initially, that your posts were not too bad, but this one is well below par. Smelly and shabby . . .speaking different languages . . . May I suggest that what you SEE is a fraction of a fraction of society . . . perhaps you should move to a better area . . .
The only good thing I can see at the moment is Cameron can't get his own way on every issue, only time will tell of course.
Self-righteous? In what way? I'm thinking that if anything the stance on immigration will become stronger . . . how did the BNP fare?
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