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How do i evict someone from my apartment

Post by Paulb67 » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:04 am

Hi All

Can anyone help me with my predicament. I have been living in Singapore for the past 4 months and I met a girl who was down on her luck and felt sorry for her. She said that she was desperate and needed a place to stay for a few weeks because her bf was going back to Aus. I had a spare bed room and said yes but there would be rules and as long as she abided by them she could stay for a while.

I know that this is where a lot of people will say stupid and I feel stupid now believe me as i have been suckered. She is a classic Singapore party girl who's out all night comes in at 4 the next day breaks every rule we agreed .

I just want to get her out of my apartment and i want to know where I stand with the law if I just kick her out and how, Will the police help who do I go to for help?
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Post by beppi » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:52 am

I had (many years ago) a similar problem with a guy whom I rented a room to and who refused to move out after I'd given the proper termination notice.
The short answer is: You're on your own. Police won't get involved in such "private disputes". The legal route is very expensive and it takes months for an eviction to occur.
It might help that, in your case, there is no rental contract. I would just ask her to leave within a reasonable period and, if she doesn't, dump her things in front of the house and change the locks. This might be illegal, but I doubt she would sue you (and incur the legal costs on her side, which are NOT recoverable from the losing party).

In my case things really turned nasty, with him filing police reports for things stolen and attempted poisoning (what the hell?!?). I engaged a lawyer and at one point ordered a Moving Company to remove his stuff (he had lots). But he got wind of it, was at home and protected his things, so they left empty-handed (and I had to pay nevertheless). Of course he also didn't pay rent (he rarely paid even before that, which was one of the reasons to get him out). It was so unpleasant that I moved into a friend's guest room just to not have to see him every day.
After he finally left, I of course didn't return his deposit, after which he went completely berserk, distributed leaflets in the neighbourhood saying I am a thief, sent similar emails to people I knew, threatened to disrupt my wedding ceremony and blackmailed my parents-in-law ("If you don't make him pay, bad things will happen to you!").
He left Singapore just before an arrest warrant was issued (not enforceable abroad) and he will land in jail if he ever returns.
I was left with a bad case of mental anxiety, several thousand dollars lost and a tale to tell, but it took me years to be able to laugh about it.

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Post by SunWuKong » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:56 am

I had something similar happen in Melbourne, Australia. My wife sublet a room to a nurse and then the fun began. She turned out to clinically depressed and spent all of her time in her room cocooned within a smoky haze of cigarettes and inebriation. A very dangerous situation considering that we had a fourteen month old in the house.

A very long story short an ambulance eventually took her away and my wife called the lady's mother to collect her belongings. The room was completely trashed and I had to replace the carpet and the underlay.

@Beppi: You should have just kicked his ass. Contrary to popular and erroneous belief, Singaporean police do not waste any time at all on sub homicidal interpersonal violence. Safe as houses. Just don't do it in front of a camera or threaten anybody over a persistent media. A threat will land one in hotter water than the act itself here in Singapore. Do not arm yourself and do not ask your friends to help. (I have a young cousin serving a two year jail sentence for participating in an armed gathering.) Follow those simple rules and the Police could not give less of a damn.

@Paulb67: Cut her loose and change your locks.
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Re: How do i evict someone from my apartment

Post by ksl » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 4:35 pm

Paulb67 wrote:Hi All

Can anyone help me with my predicament. I have been living in Singapore for the past 4 months and I met a girl who was down on her luck and felt sorry for her. She said that she was desperate and needed a place to stay for a few weeks because her bf was going back to Aus. I had a spare bed room and said yes but there would be rules and as long as she abided by them she could stay for a while.

I know that this is where a lot of people will say stupid and I feel stupid now believe me as i have been suckered. She is a classic Singapore party girl who's out all night comes in at 4 the next day breaks every rule we agreed .

I just want to get her out of my apartment and i want to know where I stand with the law if I just kick her out and how, Will the police help who do I go to for help?
No problem at all, just change the lock, pack her bags ready and give them too her when she knocks on the door.

Don't forget to record any conversation, that's the time words will fly, so keep your cool and say nothing to make matters worse. Keep the recording safe for at least a year or 2 at least in case she tries to frame you for something.

That is if she is unwilling to leave, when you tell her too, so a deadline then the locks will be changed.

Though there is nothing worse than a scorned woman so try to be diplomatic, and apologetic recording everything said. Be aware otherwise she may know the wrong kind of people who will give your ars a kick for favours, which happens often in Singapore I could imagine.

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Post by Splatted » Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:06 pm

SunWuKong wrote:I had something similar happen in Melbourne, Australia. My wife sublet a room to a nurse and then the fun began. She turned out to clinically depressed and spent all of her time in her room cocooned within a smoky haze of cigarettes and inebriation. A very dangerous situation considering that we had a fourteen month old in the house.

A very long story short an ambulance eventually took her away and my wife called the lady's mother to collect her belongings. The room was completely trashed and I had to replace the carpet and the underlay.
At least in Australia, there is a very clear outline of what you are to do to evict a person, and how to enforce it... ie giving appropriate notice, and even involving a sherrif to forcefully remove a person after filling out the correct paperwork.

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Post by Mad Scientist » Mon, 19 Apr 2010 9:36 am

If everything fails, USE THE BLOODY BROOM STICK !!!! :D
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Post by nakatago » Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:06 am

Mad Scientist wrote:If everything fails, USE THE BLOODY BOOM STICK !!!! :D
FTFY :twisted:
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