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Post by Plavt » Fri, 14 May 2010 6:06 pm

geerang wrote: "Criticise" is British spelling and Standard Singapore English follows British spelling. If you were educated in English, you would know.
Kind of strange how you don't know that these days American spellings are valid in English exams so long as you are consistent throughout the paper.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 14 May 2010 6:09 pm

He had to go to France for his Masters cause he wasn't bright enough for the Universities here in Singapore. The proof is in the writing and sloppy research. :-|
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Post by Plavt » Fri, 14 May 2010 6:09 pm

geerang wrote: O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore.

:???: :???: :???:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 14 May 2010 6:23 pm

Plavt wrote:
geerang wrote: O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore.

:???: :???: :???:
This is partially true. Singapore is still 3rd world enough that they have to depend on being recognized by the UK's certifications as theirs won't hold water on their own. Some of the O levels however, have been recently done completely locally without bringing invigilators over from the UK - those are being marked here as well. Not sure just how many years now, but only a few.
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Post by Plavt » Fri, 14 May 2010 6:31 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: This is partially true. Singapore is still 3rd world enough that they have to depend on being recognized by the UK's certifications as theirs won't hold water on their own. Some of the O levels however, have been recently done completely locally without bringing invigilators over from the UK - those are being marked here as well. Not sure just how many years now, but only a few.
Strewth, and would you believe the media here so often describes Singapore as the 'jewel' in the east. Perhaps it might be in some ways but good number of members of the media should take a closer look.....

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Post by JR8 » Fri, 14 May 2010 7:08 pm

geerang wrote: Dear Kitty,
"Criticise" is British spelling and Standard Singapore English follows British spelling. If you were educated in English, you would know. But alas.
Er, I think you totally missed the point that Kitty was making :lol: Still you managed to get a personal insult in at the end.
geerang wrote: As a child, you were busy avoiding landmines and scraping leftover food for dinner while Singaporean kids were receiving the BEST education available worldwide. Their expatriate maids carried their school bags for them and food in Singapore is so cheap, they ate till they puked.
Ah, the ad hominem attack, you really are putting all your charms on display today :) I find most food here in SG is of extremely poor quality. Maybe that is why it is cheap?
geerang wrote: O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore. Did I mention that all local Singaporean universities are top 100 in the world as well?
Does this correlate in any way with you being at university in France?
geerang wrote: There is nothing more hilarious than watching a bunch of people, like some loser expatriates here, who obviously struggle with English criticising others.
Charmed I'm sure. And nothing 'more hilarious' when that comes from someone who clearly considers himself some form of superior linguist, but who writes 'I thank god everyday that I wasn't born in third world countries...'

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Post by JR8 » Fri, 14 May 2010 7:14 pm

irvine wrote:Asian_Geekette, good question!

And if a grad student were to talk like that on public spaces, I'm really not sure what kind of contribution s/he would bring forth to the country. Maybe that answers some of the nagging questions we may have.
Yeah good point, and one easily fogotten. The style is (to me) certainly most immature, particularly for a claimed post-grad student.

In fact it reminds me the earliest SG newsgroup (internet forum) soc.culture.singapore, back in 94/95. The PAP Youth wing put their members on it to shout down negative people, and propagandise in precisely the same way that we are witnessing on this topic. The expats use to refer to them as the 'PAPbots' 8-)

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Post by geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 7:56 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Plavt wrote:
geerang wrote: O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore.

:???: :???: :???:
This is partially true. Singapore is still 3rd world enough that they have to depend on being recognized by the UK's certifications as theirs won't hold water on their own. Some of the O levels however, have been recently done completely locally without bringing invigilators over from the UK - those are being marked here as well. Not sure just how many years now, but only a few.
The O and A levels have always been fully marked by Cambridge and assessors are flown in. Only the "mother tongue" language papers are created and marked in Singapore.

This is a good move because Cambridge is the number 1/2 Uni in the world, so Singaporean's are benchmarked against Cambridge's standards and their qualifications will be recognised worldwide. Those private non Ivy league American uni degrees have a hard time getting recognised worldwide because they are unknown.

Here is a serious question. Does wellbutrin or prozac work better for you? And which year did you drop out of secondary school?
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Post by irvine » Fri, 14 May 2010 8:04 pm

Did you skip class today, geerang? Why are you here talking so much?

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Post by geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 8:13 pm

nakatago wrote:Dear geerang,

The Philippines being a third world country has nothing to do with the original point which was language proficiency versus accent. My feelings are also irrelevant (for the record, I am and will never be jealous of Singaporeans; especially you).

But since you've chosen to digress already anyway, I noticed that you are now picking fights with other people whether you realize it or not. There's a difference between having convictions in your beliefs and being a douchebag. Everybody's already noticed how antagonistic you are in your posts.

The regulars here do not always agree with each other and at times have very spirited arguments. But they never ever resort to antagonism. Those that do are admonished for it, or are considered trolls and ultimately banned.

We never brought the conflict to you. You signed up here willingly but are stirring up a storm. It's either you don't realize you're pissing us or you're intentionally doing it.
The Philippines does have a very low GDP per capita, that is a fact. My maid used to be from the Philippines but we changed her to a Malaysian one who was better trained in looking after the elderlies in my house. Changing diapers, speaking Hokkien etc. The Philippines one did a great job and we thanked her before she left Singapore, in tears.
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Post by Plavt » Fri, 14 May 2010 9:03 pm

For the benefit of the regulars I have removed the troll, just have to hope he doesn't come back again but don't count on it. :(

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Post by nakatago » Fri, 14 May 2010 9:09 pm

geerang wrote:...
Deleted my reply. Just saw Plavt's post.
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 14 May 2010 10:04 pm

Cool.

Shame there is not a 'report this post' function, as the troll was really working himself up to a crescendo over time there. Since he was just waiting to get nailed by you (and wantonly working up to it), no doubt he will be back, though I suspect he cannot sustain multiple offshore proxy-ip addresses, even if it helps work out a fixation.

His style is certainly idiosyncratic/template/classic. Can I ask, if this kind of 'attempted take-over' of debate happens again - and realising Mods cannot be everywhere all the time - how should the regular members flag their concerns to you? Is there some procedure? Maybe something good will come of this episode, with this bitter, Walter Mitty, wannabe, abusive, one-dimensional scumbag. Oops :wink:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 14 May 2010 10:41 pm

Most here just send me a PM. I'm more lenient with them than Plavt is. He ain't got no sense of humour (British or otherwise). Me, I like to play wit 'em for a while until they completely lose it. Unfortunately this one apparently lost it between the time I left the office and about 30 minutes ago when I managed to check in. I didn't even have a chance to say goodbye! :cry: :mrgreen:

But he'll be back.
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Post by JR8 » Fri, 14 May 2010 10:58 pm

Haha....

ok, noted...


p.s. Yes I enjoy a little circular pawing before destroying as well. Mmm fun.

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