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Postby geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 3:11 pm

nakatago wrote:You mean she has an atrocious accent. Different thing.

And to use your own argument, nobody in the world speaks like stephen hawking either.

Your point then is moot. You did, however, prove that you truly are singaporean. No doubt about it.


Stephen hawking does not speak, he needs a voice machine. Yes I am Singaporean, are you jealous? I thank god everyday that I wasn't born in third world countries such as the Philippines, Burma, Malaysia etc.
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Postby KittyJules76 » Fri, 14 May 2010 3:49 pm

geerang wrote:
KittyJules76 wrote:Dont know where to write so hope dont mind i write here. A friend of mine sister (same country as me) came here to find a job.


There is nothing more hilarious than watching a bunch of people, like some loser expatriates here, who obviously struggle with English criticising others.


Guess you are one of them too. :o oh wait. Actually almost all the Singaporeans love to criticise others, if not each other.

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Postby irvine » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:13 pm

Are you having a tough time in France, geerang?

You seem to be treating this place as an outlet for your not-so-nice posts. Why are you here?

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Postby Asian_Geekette » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:15 pm

geerang wrote:
nakatago wrote:You mean she has an atrocious accent. Different thing.

And to use your own argument, nobody in the world speaks like stephen hawking either.

Your point then is moot. You did, however, prove that you truly are singaporean. No doubt about it.


Stephen hawking does not speak, he needs a voice machine. Yes I am Singaporean, are you jealous? I thank god everyday that I wasn't born in third world countries such as the Philippines, Burma, Malaysia etc.


The last time I had dinner with my Malaysian friend, the dinner conversation turned to this big ego thing of some Singaporeans. There's always a lot of chest-thumping. I wonder why this is the case...

Each country has its own positive and negative sides. Sometimes even if the country is dirt poor, you'll find that there are people there who are kind, considerate, polite and know how to enjoy life's simple pleasures.

I don't consider Malaysia as a 3rd world country. Their Petronas Towers had the distinction of being the world's tallest building from 1998 to 2004 and remain as the world's tallest twin towers. :D So in terms of public phallic symbol superiority, Malaysia doesn't have to prove anything... It's out there for everyone to see. :P
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Postby geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:18 pm

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KittyJules76 wrote:Dont know where to write so hope dont mind i write here. A friend of mine sister (same country as me) came here to find a job.


There is nothing more hilarious than watching a bunch of people, like some loser expatriates here, who obviously struggle with English criticising others.


Guess you are one of them too. :o oh wait. Actually almost all the Singaporeans love to criticise others, if not each other.


Dear Kitty,

"Criticise" is British spelling and Standard Singapore English follows British spelling. If you were educated in English, you would know. But alas.

As a child, you were busy avoiding landmines and scraping leftover food for dinner while Singaporean kids were receiving the BEST education available worldwide. Their expatriate maids carried their school bags for them and food in Singapore is so cheap, they ate till they puked.

O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore. Did I mention that all local Singaporean universities are top 100 in the world as well?

geerang wrote:There is nothing more hilarious than watching a bunch of people, like some loser expatriates here, who obviously struggle with English criticising others.
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Postby Asian_Geekette » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:19 pm

irvine wrote:Are you having a tough time in France, geerang?

You seem to be treating this place as an outlet for your not-so-nice posts. Why are you here?


irvine,

How can we be sure he's in France right now? For all we know, he's still here in Singapore. Only the mods can check what is the IP address he's using and find out where he is. But if he has some IT background, he can still use proxy connections to mask his real IP address. :?
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Postby irvine » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:21 pm

What happens when it is 1st world facility but 3rd world mentality rite?

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Postby geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:23 pm

Asian_Geekette wrote:
geerang wrote:
nakatago wrote:You mean she has an atrocious accent. Different thing.

And to use your own argument, nobody in the world speaks like stephen hawking either.

Your point then is moot. You did, however, prove that you truly are singaporean. No doubt about it.


Stephen hawking does not speak, he needs a voice machine. Yes I am Singaporean, are you jealous? I thank god everyday that I wasn't born in third world countries such as the Philippines, Burma, Malaysia etc.


The last time I had dinner with my Malaysian friend, the dinner conversation turned to this big ego thing of some Singaporeans. There's always a lot of chest-thumping. I wonder why this is the case...

Each country has its own positive and negative sides. Sometimes even if the country is dirt poor, you'll find that there are people there who are kind, considerate, polite and know how to enjoy life's simple pleasures.

I don't consider Malaysia as a 3rd world country. Their Petronas Towers had the distinction of being the world's tallest building from 1998 to 2004 and remain as the world's tallest twin towers. :D So in terms of public phallic symbol superiority, Malaysia doesn't have to prove anything... It's out there for everyone to see. :P


Yes but North Korea has the tallest flagpole, can Malaysia compare?

Malaysia's GDP per capita: 7k USD
Singapore's GDP per capita: 37k USD. 5x. By the end of this year, I have a feeling it will be 6x.
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Postby irvine » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:25 pm

Asian_Geekette, good question!

And if a grad student were to talk like that on public spaces, I'm really not sure what kind of contribution s/he would bring forth to the country. Maybe that answers some of the nagging questions we may have.

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Postby Asian_Geekette » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:27 pm

geerang wrote:
As a child, you were busy avoiding landmines and scraping leftover food for dinner while Singaporean kids were receiving the BEST education available worldwide. Their expatriate maids carried their school bags for them and food in Singapore is so cheap, they ate till they puked.

(emphasis mine)

Wow! This is so enlightening! I finally know why a lot of the local women here have reed thin bodies! They grew up having eating disorders! Whoa! :D Binge eating then puking! :shock:
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Postby geerang » Fri, 14 May 2010 4:50 pm

irvine wrote:What happens when it is 1st world facility but 3rd world mentality rite?


Yeah, some poor countries in SE Asia do have a thoroughly 3rd world mentality.

One country has large numbers of rape and violent crime. Walk around with your handbag and it may be gone. The police solicits for bribes. Racism. Power outtages. Scammers. Court cases take decades to be heard. Judicial system is a thorough joke.

Another is corrupted from top to bottom. You need to pay a bribe for everything, passport, water bills etc. Even the judges solicit for bribes. People are extremely poor and had racial riots not too long ago.

Some countries in North America and Europe have all these gangsters in inner cities having gun shoot outs. Gun crimes. Massive drug problem and drug addicts on every street. Violent crime at night. Swear words on TV and radio.

Thank god Singapore is a first world facility with first world mentality. It has rule of law, is multi racial and multi culturalism.
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Postby nakatago » Fri, 14 May 2010 5:00 pm

Dear geerang,

The Philippines being a third world country has nothing to do with the original point which was language proficiency versus accent. My feelings are also irrelevant (for the record, I am not and will never be jealous of Singaporeans; especially you).

But since you've chosen to digress already anyway, I noticed that you are now picking fights with other people whether you realize it or not. There's a difference between having convictions in your beliefs and being a douchebag. Everybody's already noticed how antagonistic you are in your posts.

The regulars here do not always agree with each other and at times have very spirited arguments. But they never ever resort to antagonism. Those that do are admonished for it, or are considered trolls and ultimately banned.

We never brought the conflict to you. You signed up here willingly but are stirring up a storm. It's either you don't realize you're pissing us or you're intentionally doing it.

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Postby irvine » Fri, 14 May 2010 5:17 pm

geerang wrote:Yeah, some poor countries in SE Asia do have a thoroughly 3rd world mentality.

One country has large numbers of rape and violent crime. Walk around with your handbag and it may be gone. The police solicits for bribes. Racism. Power outtages. Scammers. Court cases take decades to be heard. Judicial system is a thorough joke.

Another is corrupted from top to bottom. You need to pay a bribe for everything, passport, water bills etc. Even the judges solicit for bribes. People are extremely poor and had racial riots not too long ago.

Some countries in North America and Europe have all these gangsters in inner cities having gun shoot outs. Gun crimes. Massive drug problem and drug addicts on every street. Violent crime at night. Swear words on TV and radio.

Thank god Singapore is a first world facility with first world mentality. It has rule of law, is multi racial and multi culturalism.


You call yourself a graduate student? LOL! But I'm not going to point out to you your argument flaws.

Next, explain to me why does your government need to have so many FINE rules and regulations? Is that to control people and also so people will conform? And what's with the tons of garbage in Singapore rivers every single day? Do you know the number of cleaners and cleaner boats it takes every single day to clean up the trash? Or did you always think Singapore rivers are always clean with no garbage?

And the best part, you guys make newater out of these very same rivers. Without water from Malaysia, perhaps water price here would be much higher, no?

We all need each other. There is nothing so superior in Singapore. Your economy status may be better than many neighboring countries, but it sure doesn't entitle you to bash others. Where is your integrity, respect, and benevolence that your ancestor's culture prides? Or have you simply forgotten your roots and values now that you've prospered?

Oh I forgot, that's what those campaigns are for!

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Postby KittyJules76 » Fri, 14 May 2010 5:18 pm

Dear Kitty,

"Criticise" is British spelling and Standard Singapore English follows British spelling. If you were educated in English, you would know. But alas.

As a child, you were busy avoiding landmines and scraping leftover food for dinner while Singaporean kids were receiving the BEST education available worldwide. Their expatriate maids carried their school bags for them and food in Singapore is so cheap, they ate till they puked.

O/A levels papers are air flown to Cambridge to be marked. And Cambridge examiners that are flown to Singapore. Did I mention that all local Singaporean universities are top 100 in the world as well?

[quote="geerang"]

Oh here comes another one. You are definately like our Singaporean lecuturer. Well-educated, smart, worked in big corporate companies before and turn out that she's a big time loser. All she know about is maids and cleaners and that how she taught in our Human Capital Management class. Your own local Singaporean students even gave her the name the Maid Teacher. Imagine a Singaporean lecturer with a master degree from your so called local Singaporean University would say such a thing like this. I was a bit surprised she even looked down to her own Singaporean. Seriously?? You want to go down to that kind of level so low with your words to attack somebody then plsssssssss... torture yourself.

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 14 May 2010 5:58 pm

irvine wrote: There is nothing so superior in Singapore.


I will have to disagree with you, irvine. The thing superior in Singapore is the complex some people have; i.e. superiority complex.


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