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one month onlinejobseeking, no result

Postby blacklion » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 3:48 pm

I live in China, and have EPEC. recently I do jobseeking online, send some resume, havenot get any result yet.
I got Master of Public Administration from USA, Bachelor of Engineering from China, and have 15 years working experiences, fimiliar with human rexource, administration and economy.
My questions:
Is my qualification easy to find a job?
Which is better way to jobseek, send resume online or apply in Singapore?
Appreciate to any reply.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 4:03 pm

No matter what I say, somebody will take issue with it. So somebody else stick their hand in the fire to see if it's hot. :P

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Postby beppi » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 4:15 pm

The work environment here is almost 100% based on the English language.
I am sure it does not make a good impression on potential employers that you cannot spell your claimed areas of expertise correctly. Furthermore, having spent time (for a Master degree) in USA without being able to pick up the language implies bad interpersonal and learning skills as well as a lack of mental flexibility.
I seriously recommend you improve your language skills before you try to apply again!

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 4:46 pm

You could google--I'm sorry--search for more topics online about breaking into the Singapore job market. There are so many factors that can affect your marketability, aside from those stated already. And one month of online searching is very short.
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Postby intellectualsmuse » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 5:05 pm

nakatago wrote:You could google--I'm sorry--search for more topics online about breaking into the Singapore job market. There are so many factors that can affect your marketability, aside from those stated already. And one month of online searching is very short.
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Nice nice- SMS, in view of your new found empathy for less fortunate posters you can now take classes in diplomacy from Nakatago :cool:

To the OP:
1. 1 month is too short a time all things considered
2. You might want to spend time improving your English as it will enable you to present yourself better to recruiters. You may have ability and aptitude but getting that across to recruiters/interviewers is critical.

Goodluck!
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 5:48 pm

But this way it's no fun!

I could have summed up your's, beppi's & nakatago's wordy posts in two words! :lol:

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 5:52 pm

I don't know about you guys but I just couldn't pass up on the opportunity to use the Google vs. China issue in a joke.

Followed by some real advice.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 6:21 pm

It wasn't lost on me. :cool:

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Postby beppi » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 6:48 pm

SMS, you shouldn't be confrontational. Maybe the OP has valid reasons for wanting to come to Singapore, just doesn't know enough.

I was once contacted for advice by a Chinese friend of a friend who had grown up in Eastern Germany (due to old socialist connections) and thus spoke Chinese, German and Russian. He wanted his kids to grow up in a cultural environment closer to his, but not quite in China itself, and thus thought Singapore would be ideal - perfectly reasonable argumentation from a perfectly reasonable guy. He was inconsolable when I told him that, without English, he has no chance to find a job in his field here (engineering).

Somehow, many Chinese still have this idea that Singapore is Chinese. I guess that's due to nationalist brainwashing in their education system.

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 7:40 pm

sms wasn't being confrontational. was being an ass, yes but not confrontational. :P :twisted:

in any case,op was given sincere and useful advice. we're now on the after show party. :P :P :P

@beppi: word!

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Postby intellectualsmuse » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 8:50 pm

Beppi, you need to appreciate the "real insights" these posts offer

1. SMS in his post without actually saying anything remotely offensive indicated that he'd be more than happy to tell the OP to ..... ...

2. Nakatago's post while taking a shot at the Google China thing(which I thot was quite clever) also included "useful" advice

As far as I'm concerned I couldn't slip up the opportunity to comment on SMS's new considerate image conscious avatar :twisted: but I had to ensure my post was relevant to the OP as well so I did that.

In short, these posts are fun and also relevant :P and I can't see it any other way.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 9:14 pm

beppi, How was I being confrontational?

What's funny is everybody is thinking my two words were really foul. I actually had three sets but none were chastising him/her or foul either. They were just short, to the point. Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts!

My two words?

Fat Chance,

No Way
or
Good Luck.

Basically, any one of the three sets would have relayed a lot more succinctly what everybody's verbosity did, and probably wouldn't confuse him either. And IM, you are right, it wasn't even remotely offensive.

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Postby intellectualsmuse » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 9:23 pm

I actually thought your two words would be Gawd NO. The 3rd dot was the full stop of course. (Am kind of particular abt the punctuation piece you know.) :P

Sometimes ppl ask questions that would seem repetitive but I think one of the reasons they come to this forum is to seek reassurance and to voice their doubts. Some of them are contemplating life changes and are anxious. While a reality check is important, maybe we could do it a nicer way? Think abt it. (And I know u've probably seen 10s of thousands of posts, so I understand).
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:59 pm

I would tend to agree. Especially on the quantum of posts!

[begin rant]

Seriously though, quite often, the only way to actually get the message into their thick skulls is to literally hit 'em in the head with a baseball or cricket bat! Otherwise, they keep coming back with the same identical question phrased differently, and on and on and on. :o

Therefore, rather than take the mickey out on this poster I let someone else do it. But when you have a whole week of answering questions by those who are out to possibly defraud the system as it is meant to be used, we tend to get fed up after a while. Especially, when they come on here trying to find out ways to fill out or submit or otherwise creatively (not truthfully) try to make themselves "suitable" to gain entry to this little red dot. This gets worse, if you happen to be a long standing member of certain fraternities here (like PR) and have, thanks to people who take up limited numbers of PR, for instance, with absolutely NO intention of being a "Permanent" resident at all, but are just looking at ways to abuse Singapore's hospitality. This has resulted in PR's getting heaps of their subsidies cut and more curtailment is on the cards. People like myself, saint and a number of others who actually want PR for what it represents, tend to get agro when having to deal with that kind of "talent". This week has been particularly bad for those types, so our patience is wearing thin. I love helping people, but I draw the line at helping them cheat or abuse our hosts. This forum, notwithstanding, is only the tip of the iceberg. I also have 18 years of HR Management and Headhunting experience in this country and have interview hundreds and read thousands of CVs that are often so full of crap it boggles the mind.

Yeah, you can say it. I know I'm old-fashioned, but I have principles, and helping those who are deliberately hurting others by taking something 'for convenience sake' only and not because they really want to "stay" here does not compute and tends to short-circuit my fuses.

[/rant]

And furthermore.......if I change too much, then I'll no longer be the cantankerous 135 year old curmudgeon here. It took me 130 years to cultivate that! :mrgreen:

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Postby ksl » Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:15 pm

SMS: And furthermore.......if I change too much, then I'll no longer be the cantankerous 135 year old curmudgeon here. It took me 130 years to cultivate that!
And you will be remembered for another 500 years at least :P


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