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HK citizen with Ex S'porean passport, How??

Post by calvinchan » Sun, 14 Mar 2010 1:12 am

Dear all, please kindly give me the best advice if possible.....or any legal recommendation ......

Make the story short ;-

I was born in HK in the 70s, having a S'porean father at the time of born, therefore claimed the passport. However, parents divorce at my age of 3, so had been living in HK eversince and claimed my citizenship for HK.


All these years living and growing up in HK with my mum and have no contact with my dad


Checked with MISDEF saying that my citizenship was ceased already at my aged of 22 since i never returned for NS reporting.


Is there anyway If I can apply PR in Singapore or anything, love Singapore very much and hope I can live there one day


I have Uni degree and get paid more than SG7,000 per month


What shall I do


Please advice ....and advice if there s any legal consultant around

Cal

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Post by FaeLLe » Sun, 14 Mar 2010 2:47 pm

I think you would not be under any liability.

You can choose what citizenship you need till a certain age.
If you choose not to retain Singapore citizenship then it lapses.

You might be eligible for NS if you decide to return to SG I guess.

This is purely based on my understanding, one of the vetrans should be able to build on this.

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Post by Mad Scientist » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 8:23 am

FaeLLe wrote:I think you would not be under any liability.

You can choose what citizenship you need till a certain age.
If you choose not to retain Singapore citizenship then it lapses.

You might be eligible for NS if you decide to return to SG I guess.

This is purely based on my understanding, one of the vetrans should be able to build on this.
Incorrect.

1. Under the SG consitution the right of dual citizenship of a minor by parent of Singapore is allowed if born overseas.
2. The minor is allowed to hold dual citizenship at the age of 21. Or for male minor 18 pre NS enlistment
3. The SG citizenship overwrites any other citizenship similar to US. Hence if you are over 21, if you have dual foreign citizenship you have to forego your foreign one. SG does not recognise dual citizenship after 21. Unless you renounce your SG citizenship then you can have your foreign one
4. At 21, you must state your intention on which citizenship you want to hold. Since the OP did not get any exit permit after 13 till 21, by default his SG Citizenship is void. I believe the passport has expired too by then. The OP did not return to SG over that period, ICA by default renounce his SG citizenship as he did not gain any socio economic benefits from SG. However as the OP has said "Checked with MISDEF saying that my citizenship was ceased already at my aged of 22 since i never returned for NS reporting." , he has committed an offense as no EP was applied when he turn 13 and a second offence of not reporting for NS
5. Since he is at the age bracket of 30 to 40, he will not be eligble for NS active duties thus making his return pointless unless to pay for his offense committed.

Having said all that, I doubt he is allowed to work here.

OP, please contact ICA i.e Citizen Advise Bureau, check if your name is still inside their record . If not you can try your luck to work here.
Do not identify yourself as the name search .
If yes, I do not think you can even visit SG

Sorry this is how it works

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Post by calvinchan » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:39 pm

thank you very much for your sincere reply Mad Scientist. I truly appreciated and hopefully my case would also benefit others with similar quires.

yes, i have checked with MISDEF and had received the exact statement as "you have ceased your citizenship at the age of 22..........."

until now, i dare not to apply anything related to PR nor any work permit or residency. i have no problem getting in and out at this moment using my HK passport and believe that everything shall stay the same provided as nothing s changed.

however, wondering if i still have a chance to re-instate my residency or citizenship in the future, let say after 40/45/50 of age so i m beyond the enlistment of NS and can be landed safely to enjoy the living environment of Singapore.

thank you everyone and appreciate any feedback

cal

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Post by Mad Scientist » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 4:14 am

calvinchan wrote:
until now, i dare not to apply anything related to PR nor any work permit or residency. i have no problem getting in and out at this moment using my HK passport and believe that everything shall stay the same provided as nothing s changed.

You are able to move in and out of SG border control because your HK passport states you are born in HK NOT IN SG. I will beg to differ if it is otherwise, You will be scutinise like a convict

however, wondering if i still have a chance to re-instate my residency or citizenship in the future, let say after 40/45/50 of age so i m beyond the enlistment of NS and can be landed safely to enjoy the living
environment of Singapore.

This is my guess ONLY, I am not a witch doctor gazing into the crystal ball BUT based on the facts that you gave, you will definitely NOT allowed to be re-instate. However your chance of living in SG as a PR or WP will be another different kettle of fish. I think you can have a go at it provided someone in SG is willing to employ you among other requirements.
NS Offenses stick to you like hard glue, I cannot answer you on this.

thank you everyone and appreciate any feedback

cal

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