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Postby lty1973 » Thu, 11 Nov 2010 1:28 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:He also got the government to relook at the penalties for said offenses and now they are going to be much harder.......

The biggest way to cause the government to close a loophole or change the law is to use it and then brag about it in the open. Oops! another loophole closed.


This is my advise to anyone who wants to skip NS...

Do it if, and only if, you can honestly say the following:-

(1) I do not want to be Singaporean; now or in the future.
(2) I do not feel that I owe any allegiance, loyalty or emotional attachment to the Republic of Singapore.
(3) I know for a fact that I can, or have already, secured permanent residency or citizenship in another nation.
(4) I do not ever want to live, work or even visit Singapore.
(5) I am comfortable with all of the above being permanent and irrevocable once I take the actions to flee the country.

If you answer yes to all the above. My advice is that you should go ahead -- plan and execute your escape.

If you do not want to be a citizen of a country, do not want to live in it, are not loyal to it in any way and have some place else to go, you should not serve in that country's military, you should go! You gain nothing out of serving and they gain nothing out of your contrived service.

If Singapore is smart, they shouldn't even want you in their military -- people like that are more likely to shoot their commanders or spy for the enemy than follow orders.

If Singapore is smart, they should simply say that any citizen who refuses to pledge allegiance and/or serve NS, and has PR or citizenship rights in another country will be expelled from the country and permanently barred from entry.

But they are not smart. So it is up to you to leave and never return.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Thu, 02 Dec 2010 8:11 am

lty1973 wrote:This is my advise to anyone who wants to skip NS...

Do it if, and only if, you can honestly say the following:-

(1) I do not want to be Singaporean; now or in the future.
(2) I do not feel that I owe any allegiance, loyalty or emotional attachment to the Republic of Singapore.
(3) I know for a fact that I can, or have already, secured permanent residency or citizenship in another nation.
(4) I do not ever want to live, work or even visit Singapore.
(5) I am comfortable with all of the above being permanent and irrevocable once I take the actions to flee the country.

If you do not want to be a citizen of a country, do not want to live in it, are not loyal to it in any way and have some place else to go, you should not serve in that country's military, you should go! You gain nothing out of serving and they gain nothing out of your contrived service.

If Singapore is smart, they shouldn't even want you in their military -- people like that are more likely to shoot their commanders or spy for the enemy than follow orders.

If Singapore is smart, they should simply say that any citizen who refuses to pledge allegiance and/or serve NS, and has PR or citizenship rights in another country will be expelled from the country and permanently barred from entry.

But they are not smart. So it is up to you to leave and never return.




I am the recipient of your post and only now managed to read what you are posting.
Your advises are purely hypothetical and debatable at best
Nobody can see their future. The world economy is ever so changing that it is very hard to put your finger where the next booming economy will be.
At this moment Asia/China is the place to be. Singapore with the strength in their reserves and flexibility in adapting market changes will be at the forefront of any changes. It will be very hard to ignore this market if you are young, fresh from Uni and eager to see the world BUT you are not able to take up that opportunities when it was presented as you have something stuck on your bum which reads: NS
The NS issue goes beyond your advises.
Reading between the lines, I believe you DID not live SG and serve NS when you make these comments .
So...... I would humbly request that you stop giving advises about NS since you have no clue what you are talking about.

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Postby classification » Sat, 21 Apr 2012 4:13 am

This may be an old post But thank god I am not alone with this issue and believe there are plenty out there ! What I usually do just a year before my passport expires I return to Sg have it renewed. no questions asked frm ICA.
and always enter Sg with Sg passport. Also when travel around the region. When back in Europe use Euro passport. Upon check in with airline they usually ask for your Euro PR card and I only showed them my German ID Card. they accepted them with no question asked. I travel back to almost every yr. :)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:38 pm

So you are committing perjury every time you renew your passport. This is illegal. WE DO NOT RECOMMEND ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES OR ACTION ON THIS FORUM. lying on your passport application is a very serious action. Please refrain from any more of this type of post.

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Postby dragon27 » Thu, 10 May 2012 8:36 pm

Sometimes there are some officials (not from airlines) checking ID just before boarding the flight. They ask questions like how long is the duration of stay outside singapore, whether there is valid permit working overseas, etc.

Holding dual citizenships might risk inconvenience if found out just before boarding flight... Good luck.


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