Answer : It does not work that way. They do not want your money !! They want YOUR BODY AND SOUL !!! Capisce !!stressless wrote:Hi guys!
take a look at my case. This doesnt make sense to me.
The case:
Born, raised, studied and currently living in Norway.
Both of my parents are Singaporeans. ----> which means that I automatically recieved the Singapore citizenship as well.
Answer : No, you did not received the SG citizenship automatically , Your parents must have applied for it. The right of SG citizenship by descent for parents of SG is allowed . But you will be consider a Minor Citizen until the age of 21 where you have to renounce one of your citizenship.
Then they got your SG passport for travel purposes
Never lived in Singapore. Only short visits.
Never applied for IC. Haven't used my Singaporean passport since the age of 16. But i did renew my passport the be able to travel to singapore.
Answer: The Red Passport has more value than the IC as the President of SG request that the country that you are visiting protect its citizen from harms way. You are under the protection of SG .I believe your parents did NOT apply for your exit permit from CMPB when you turn 13 to 16 and a half. Hence you are consider NS defaulter. When you turn 18 , you are already enlisted for NS and you did not report for NS, I believe.
SO now you being double whammied for not having an exit permit and failing to report for NS when you turn 18
Acquired Norwegian citizenship at the age of 18.
Renounced my Singaporean citizenship at the age of 21 and before me 22.th birthday.
Answer: Does not matter if you already are a Nowergian Citizen. The first part of the protocol were not done. Now you face the music.
Just recieved a letter that I'm classified as a NS defaulter.
Answer : Bingo !!
So my question is.
I'm aware that I'll never be able to visit Singapore again.
But, can I travel to Malaysia?
Answer : you can travel to M'sia but do not go by transit to SG. Direct to KL . Trust me I know.!!
And someone please answer me... Why does Singapore want me to complete the NS to renounce my Singaporean citizenship?
Answer : Your parent, I believe, has lived in SG for sometime, Maybe Dad served the army whatever for NS. He must have known this protocol.
The law was enacted in the 1967 but amendment were made till 2005 Feb . More so after the piano man debacle. They have tighten the law on this as tight as the vacuum hull. You should asked your parent this question instead.
That's definitly not a good deal. So I'm disappointed that Singapore doesnt see that thats not representing a good "business deal" as they country is known for.
Answer: What "good business deal" are you referring to ? This has nothing to do anything with business. This is the SG Consititution which was enacted in 1965 before you are born.
Go the nsportal.gov.sg or ica.gov.sg or mindef.gov.sg or Ministry of Home Affairs or google countries that has NS as a compulsory thing for Male. You will be surprised the number countries that have this .
Look, I am not for or against NS, but if your parents did not follow the protocol to renounce and now you are in a quandary
Norway is the one that have paid all the expenses for my studies and healthcare.
Answer : SG Gahmen REALLY DO NOT CARE even if you are paid by the President of America.
Why doesnt Singapore allow me to work and pay tax to them?
Look , my bad, maybe I am bit harsh on you.stressless wrote:Hi again...
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Answer : It does not work that way. They do not want your money !! They want YOUR BODY AND SOUL !!! Capisce !! "
You forgot "money".
If I gave a casino like Marina Bay Sands to ... It would have solved my "problem".
nothing else...
I don't think he's talking about gambling, I think he's referring to funding the entire project.Mad Scientist wrote: If you want to give Money to the casino....
Incorrect. You are never stateless. You are there by virtue of holding SG passport. Yes, now you have Norwegian Passport. But SG Gahmen Amended Law stipulate that you can only hold one passport after 21.stressless wrote:The fact is that, I would have been stateless for 18 years or so, if my parents didnt have applied for my passport.
The exit permit is indeed a mistake that we made.
Anyways....
My mom makes the best nonya laksa (yes... we have all the fresh ingredients here too..) Even though it's like minus 14 degrees now.
So whats the deal.
Interesting stuff. I know 1,2,5,6,8 but not the rest.Mad Scientist wrote:BTW Things I forgot to mention. If you chose not to return, this is what they will do to your extended family living here in SG if you have one
1. The CMPB will call and make house visit to locate you for the next six month.
2. They will call your grandparents especially and make them realise that your grandparent is harbouring a NS defaulters.
3. Then they will have a go at your parents siblings
4. They will create such a mess that they make you like a "convicted killer" on the run.
5. I believe your parent still hold SG passport, try renewing their passport the next time it expire.
6. If your parent hold HDB flat and CPF here there is another spots that they can take pot shot on you
7. A letter will be send to the Norwegian Embassy in SG for notification of defaultment of SGer.
8.To locate you is not difficult, hell , I did those things b4
So... unless you find this NO BIG DEAL then go ahead choose this path & Good Luck to your journey ahead !!
Koalabear wrote: Just a question I have. One of my friend's dad is working in Singapore but mum is in America. NS defaulter is living with his grandmother who is of Canadian/American nationality in USA. Both parents are Singaporeans.
Can the government freak the parents' life if they can prove
1) they did not habour their son at home
Answer: Yes, they did not harbour their son at home BUT they are his legal guardian. Not freak as per se but the parent passports, especially will be monitored. They will have difficulties in applying for renewal etc.....
Answer: Legal age to vote is 21.So you can make this argument but at the end of the day SG Gahmen call the shot.It all depends whether Mindef, CMPB, ICA and the works would want to make an example of the parents ,for would be or already had, of child that was required to return to serve NS, scoot but fail to return or refuse.
Mad Scientist wrote:Koalabear wrote: Just a question I have. One of my friend's dad is working in Singapore but mum is in America. NS defaulter is living with his grandmother who is of Canadian/American nationality in USA. Both parents are Singaporeans.
Can the government freak the parents' life if they can prove
1) they did not habour their son at home
Answer: Yes, they did not harbour their son at home BUT they are his legal guardian. Not freak as per se but the parent passports, especially will be monitored. They will have difficulties in applying for renewal etc.....
Answer: Legal age to vote is 21.So you can make this argument but at the end of the day SG Gahmen call the shot.It all depends whether Mindef, CMPB, ICA and the works would want to make an example of the parents ,for would be or already had, of child that was required to return to serve NS, scoot but fail to return or refuse.
My points that I have written before were based on my previous work life experience.
There is a quota for NS men in the roll call on every reporting intake. They have to meet that quota so......... I leave it to you to imagine
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