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Post by missis » Fri, 28 May 2010 2:24 pm

Briefly - "pets" are banned in our condo (thankfully we arrived without) with the "exception of cats". So presumably some bigwig on the housing committee for our place lives in one of the condos with a cat :roll:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 28 May 2010 4:49 pm

x9200 wrote:Depends. If this is only her/him who finds it offensive then rather not. With smoking the group of ppl who does not like it is huge and what also very important it is pretty black and white so typically you can tell easily if the smell is of cigarettes/pipe rather then something else. With food it is much more to individuals if the smell is ok or not. Same for intensity.
If we accept that there are already places where smoking or even durianing is prohibited by law then it is kind of logical that some ppl may not want to have it also in their homes esp. that they may have very limited possibilities to avoid it
The group of people who don't like the smell of durians is huge as well but you don't see them complaining about the stall next to the hawker centre either. They just sit elsewhere or learn to deal with it. So, no, I don't believe it's so black and white as you would like to make it. But having said that, I will agree to disagree, and continue to holler obscenities at smoke belching SUV's as they pass me on my bike with my "large group of fellow cyclists" who appreciate clean fresh air. Why, because unlike restaurants where you can move indoors where there is no smoking nor passive smoke allowed, we aren't yet civilized enough to provide bike lanes for the health conscious here. But they are working on it with the parks & park connectors. :D

For the record though, I don't like passive smoke either. I'm probably worse than the rest as I'm a born again non-smoker who kicked a 37 year habit 5+ years ago. But I'm talking principle and not personal preference. I move if I don't like it as I've walked many miles in both types of shoes.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by x9200 » Fri, 28 May 2010 7:34 pm

SMS, it must be my bad English but not the durians black and white. The smoking black and white. Having said this I really don't think you would like to have a durian stall in the balcony of your direct neighbour. I would not neither even if I find unprocessed durians pretty tasty. And I completely agree I would also not like to have a neighbour who would run his smoking SUV's engine next to my window regardless I am a biker or not. As a non-smoker I do not complain about ppl smoking in public as I can pretty much avoid them. Cyclists are complaining about the cars all the time :cool: (perfect emoticon for this discussion). Cyclists are a minority and funny enough same are smoking ppl who are forcing the majority to deal with their bad habits...We can shuffle this kind of arguments for many posts but the bottom line is - this is all about respecting somebody's private space so exactly opposite to imposing some meaningless law for its own sake.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 28 May 2010 9:06 pm

Cyclists are a minority cause cars keep killing them!

http://otterman.wordpress.com/2009/05/1 ... -may-2009/

If more care were given to the welfare of cyclists, maybe the roads wouldn't be so crowded. Why can't we co-exist as is done in Holland?

Actually it's about conforming to the ideals of somebody else isn't it? One man's meat is another man's poison right? But, I concede. You are right because you wanna be. :wink:
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Post by x9200 » Sat, 29 May 2010 7:32 am

Thank you SMS for admitting in your specific way that you actually agree with me :P

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