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Childcare close to home and things to do with 1+ yr old

Discuss the many options of preschools and which suits your children.
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Childcare close to home and things to do with 1+ yr old

Post by Sneakymum » Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:10 pm

Hi All,

We will be moving to Singapore from Australia mid-2010 and would like your suggestions for a good places to live with a toddler. I'm looking for a place where there are other families, mother's group, childcare and child friendly facilities nearby. My son will be just over a year old by then.

At the moment, my little man who is currently 8.5 mths old attends playgroup, babies swim classes and music appreciation classes etc. . I'm looking for a similar setup.

My husband and I are familiar with Singapore as we lived there 2004-2006, but are unsure of what's available when it comes to children.

TIA

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Post by rosborn » Thu, 25 Feb 2010 2:39 pm

well, the good news is that Singapore is made for kids....if you can handle the heat!

Below I am pasting a post I made in Nov last year about areas to live.
Each one will offer slightly different options nearby..best is to check them out. Look for nearest malls because they tend to have the small gyms / dance / painting etc classes for kids. Most expats areas have many childcare / kindy / playgroup options. Many people drive/bus their kids to school and it's OK..just make sure it's easy/convenient/short to do so. Write again if you have more Qs.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject:
firstly congrats on your move. Singapore is a fantastic place for families (I personally believe). We also debated bw areas and dwelling types and I have to say unless you have a big budget to get a house with pool, condos can be a fantastic place for families. Access to a playground, pool, tennis etc is great. We use the pool and playground every day. Not all apts are large though and it will depend what you are used to. I suggest seeing a range of dwellings (condo vs house vs cluster house) to see what the right balance of space and facilities is for you. I must say that yo can't go past a pool. It's a must for kids in Singapore.

If moving to a condo, take a look around to see whether there's lots of expats...depending on your preferences that could be a good or bad thing. Our condo has all nationalities but we tend to gravitate toward other aussies, english, europeans and americans. Our condo social circle has become very important to us an our kids. Other friends in condos have not made one friend and this would feel quite isolating.

If you get a house with no pool, you may want to consider joining a 'country club'. If you can get in, several offer $4K+ per year membership.

We selected River Valley to live because of the proximity to cafes / restaurants / shops and the city (for a short commute). There are kindys nearby as well as many activities for kids (ballet, art etc)
We can see the casino from our condo.

In addition to East Coast (which would probably also be good for your husband's commute), lots of expats live around Holland Village, Tanglin, Bukit Timah which are all lovely but further from the city (longer commute) and the Marina.

In terms of houses, unless you live out or pay rent > $10K per month (although it;s coming down!!) I get the sense that most of them have a courtyard sized outdoor space unless you have a good budget.

So, with housing, invest several days getting driven around to different areas and get a feel for access to parks, playgrounds, cafes (etc, whatever is important to you) kids activities (like gym, swimming etc). See some different housing options (condo vs house) and of course check out the public transport. SMRT website has a journey planner tool to let you check the commute. Think about what's important. For us for instance, although cabs are cheap, we wanted walking access to cafes/wine bars/shops/park.

We live in condo called Aspen Heights and while what we live in is small (1600 SF) we use the facilities all the time with our little kids. We sacrifice space for convenience.

THE FOLLOWING MAY NO LONGER APPLY AS RENTS ARE CREEPING UP...
Anyway, one last tip is that rents have fallen because of the recession. Some agents and landlords are in denial about this because of rents being high for some time and also because this thing called 'saving face' where they do not want to cave in negotiations. Be prepared to bargain hard or walk away. For instance, if it's listed for $10K, offer 7-8K and see where it goes. I think there's plenty of stock so don't be fooled into signing.
Also, if you aren't certain about your choice, ask for a 1 year lease (most are 2). You may have to pay a little more for it but gee it's nice to have a year to work out where you really want to live instead of 2. Lastly, and most importantly, make sure your lease (if 2 year) includes a 'diplomatic clause' that allows you to get out of it if your/your husband is transfered away/loses job etc.

Hope this helps. Best of luck.

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music appreciation

Post by musikbox » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 9:31 pm

Hi,
i do music appreciation classes too. you can pm me if you are interested. I sent my own children to various music programmes and decided to start my own classroom since I cannot find one suitable which has fun music & movement lessons which includes basic rudiments in music theory too. Many franchised programmes in Singapore can only be found in a few child care centres and you need to attend the childcare centres there to benefit from it. I hope this helps.

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Post by Sneakymum » Wed, 31 Mar 2010 5:14 am

I appreciate your replies...

Musikbox I'll PM you when we are settled regarding music programmes. My son just loves his music - piano, clarinet and violin. It's the only time I can get him to stay still for more than 5 minutes.

Rosborn - thanks for the information regarding residential areas with expat families. I'm familiar with River Valley and I think we will be quite comfortable there. We will be arriving in mid-June now (the date has been set!) and will be house hunting for the 2 weeks in May.

Thanks,
J

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Great!

Post by musikbox » Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:24 pm

Anytime Sneaky mum.
Have a great move and welcome back to Singapore!

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