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Postby attar1297 » Tue, 31 Jan 2012 4:24 am

Hi all,

I am trying to apply to Accenture Singapore as a management consultant. I am currently wrapping up a Ph.D. degree in Business at a major U.S. university and will (hopefully) graduate in May this year.

I actually applied earlier this month but was rejected (am not sure of the reason because the response to the feedback I requested was unclear and was referring me to unrelated links instead). I then talked to several Accenture consultants in Jakarta office and Ohio office. Any suggestion for the application procedure specifically at the Singapore office that needs particular attention?

Thanks for your attention.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 31 Jan 2012 6:47 am

Without knowing the feedback you received, we cannot begin to try to decipher what they were saying. Insufficient data.

Are you an American Citizen? On a Student Visa? Do you have experience other than educational? If you are not a citizen, where are you from. Lots of little bits not included to help us deduce what might be the problem.......

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Postby FaeLLe » Tue, 31 Jan 2012 7:48 am

attar1297 wrote:Hi all,

I am trying to apply to Accenture Singapore as a management consultant. I am currently wrapping up a Ph.D. degree in Business at a major U.S. university and will (hopefully) graduate in May this year.

I actually applied earlier this month but was rejected (am not sure of the reason because the response to the feedback I requested was unclear and was referring me to unrelated links instead). I then talked to several Accenture consultants in Jakarta office and Ohio office. Any suggestion for the application procedure specifically at the Singapore office that needs particular attention?

Thanks for your attention.


Well if you were rejected in the screening round before interview then it is because they do not have a business requirement for your profile.

Time to examine other opportunities....

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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 7:09 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Without knowing the feedback you received, we cannot begin to try to decipher what they were saying. Insufficient data.

Are you an American Citizen? On a Student Visa? Do you have experience other than educational? If you are not a citizen, where are you from. Lots of little bits not included to help us deduce what might be the problem.......


Hello,

Sorry for the very late response :) That's the problem, I specifically sent an email asking for a feedback but all I received was a general information that I could find online on Accenture's website. Indeed it was an insufficient data and I was kind of disappointed myself (they sent me links from Accenture's official website without addressing why I got rejected).

I'm not an American. I'm in the U.S. under a student visa. I have a 2-year experience as a systems analyst in my home country and a 1-year experience as a contract consultant at the World Bank in Washington D.C. I'm originally from Southeast Asia but not a Singaporean (I wish not to go deeper here for the sake of privacy, my apology :D)

I'm looking for a position as a management consultant at Accenture although I'm pretty sure I might end up as a technology consultant based on my background (which I prefer not).

Thank you for your response sundaymorningstaple.

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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 7:21 am

FaeLLe wrote:
Well if you were rejected in the screening round before interview then it is because they do not have a business requirement for your profile.

Time to examine other opportunities....


Hi FaeLLe, I supposed you have accepted the position with Accenture. Congratulation by the way :) Sorry for the very late response as well (I should have checked here regularly which I will from now on). I applied as a Risk Management Professional earlier this year and as I mentioned before, got rejected the next day I sent my application :)

I was being naive and ignorant to apply for a consulting position without knowing the rules of the game in consulting firm :wink: I'm playing my cards right now: I have refurbished my resume and CV, am researching about Accenture and what they are doing, and am preparing for case interviews. I want to reapply on April or early May but this time as a management consultant.

Could I please share your email ID? I'd like to learn more about Accenture in Singapore. Are you a management consultant or a technology consultant at Accenture?

Thank you for your attention.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:58 am

attar1297 wrote:I have a 2-year experience as a systems analyst in my home country and a 1-year experience as a contract consultant at the World Bank in Washington D.C.

Just a guess, but I would have thought this amount of experience would be considered somewhat on the low side for a position with a company like Accenture. Perhaps a few more years of contracting experience (ideally moving up the food chain if possible) would improve your chances?

Sorry if this is just stating the obvious, but the chances are that other applicants had a lot more relevant experience than you.

Good luck.
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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:22 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:Just a guess, but I would have thought this amount of experience would be considered somewhat on the low side for a position with a company like Accenture. Perhaps a few more years of contracting experience (ideally moving up the food chain if possible) would improve your chances?

Sorry if this is just stating the obvious, but the chances are that other applicants had a lot more relevant experience than you.

Good luck.


Hi Mi Amigo,

Thank you for responding. According to what I learned from a friend of mine who is an Accenture management consultant, there is an entry-level position for those who do not have any experience. And of course there are some other positions for those who have garnered some years of experience. The career path at Accenture goes something like this:
Analyst (entry-level) --> Consultant --> Manager --> Senior Manager --> Director

I am sure not looking forward to the Manager position but wouldn't mind if I were to be admitted at the Analyst level. But according to that friend of mine, the analyst level is reserved for those who have zero experience.

But once again, I wouldn't mind if Accenture doesn't value my 3 years professional experience plus 2 years university-teaching experience and puts me in an Analyst level instead. I have a friend who also has a Ph.D. but was appointed as an analyst at Accenture upon recruitment because she has zero experience.

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Postby skkamandy » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:26 pm

FaeLLe wrote:
intelliice wrote:FaeLLe - For email, same as my id here. It is a gmail account. Send me a note with your profile and we can go from there.

Anyone else here on the board that can share their experience working with ACN Singapore. Looking for any guidelines on compensation or benefits that can be expected at Manager level.

Thanks for sharing your views folks.

Cheers!


Hi lets chat on gtalk then.


I would like to join your chat as well and share your experience.
Same as my id suffixed by @gmail.com
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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:27 pm

attar1297 wrote:
FaeLLe wrote:
Well if you were rejected in the screening round before interview then it is because they do not have a business requirement for your profile.

Time to examine other opportunities....


Hi FaeLLe, I supposed you have accepted the position with Accenture. Congratulation by the way :) Sorry for the very late response as well (I should have checked here regularly which I will from now on). I applied as a Risk Management Professional earlier this year and as I mentioned before, got rejected the next day I sent my application :)

I was being naive and ignorant to apply for a consulting position without knowing the rules of the game in consulting firm :wink: I'm playing my cards right now: I have refurbished my resume and CV, am researching about Accenture and what they are doing, and am preparing for case interviews. I want to reapply on April or early May but this time as a management consultant.

Could I please share your email ID? I'd like to learn more about Accenture in Singapore. Are you a management consultant or a technology consultant at Accenture?

Thank you for your attention.


What makes you think that FaeLLe got accepted at Accenture... or even applied? She was referring to a friend. I'm getting a good sense of why you were rejected....

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:28 pm

skkamandy wrote:
FaeLLe wrote:
intelliice wrote:FaeLLe - For email, same as my id here. It is a gmail account. Send me a note with your profile and we can go from there.

Anyone else here on the board that can share their experience working with ACN Singapore. Looking for any guidelines on compensation or benefits that can be expected at Manager level.

Thanks for sharing your views folks.

Cheers!


Hi lets chat on gtalk then.


I would like to join your chat as well and share your experience.
Same as my id suffixed by @gmail.com


You think the 'chat' is still running two years later?

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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:33 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:What makes you think that FaeLLe got accepted at Accenture... or even applied? She was referring to a friend. I'm getting a good sense of why you were rejected....


That's what FaeLLe said in the first message but look at the subsequent chats :wink: I do not want to elaborate on this but it depends on one's interpretation :)

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Postby Mi Amigo » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:57 pm

attar1297 wrote:According to what I learned from a friend of mine who is an Accenture management consultant, there is an entry-level position for those who do not have any experience. And of course there are some other positions for those who have garnered some years of experience. The career path at Accenture goes something like this:
Analyst (entry-level) --> Consultant --> Manager --> Senior Manager --> Director

I am sure not looking forward to the Manager position but wouldn't mind if I were to be admitted at the Analyst level. But according to that friend of mine, the analyst level is reserved for those who have zero experience.

But once again, I wouldn't mind if Accenture doesn't value my 3 years professional experience plus 2 years university-teaching experience and puts me in an Analyst level instead. I have a friend who also has a Ph.D. but was appointed as an analyst at Accenture upon recruitment because she has zero experience.


I'm not an expert in this area, but I would have thought the applicant list for the entry-level (zero experience) analyst roles would be choc-full with highly qualified local candidates. Keep in mind that it's a lot easier for them to find appoint someone locally than deal with relocation, employment pass, etc. for a person who is overseas. Generally speaking, a company would only want to deal with that stuff in order to get someone with strong relevant experience. I'm not trying to be negative here, just putting myself in the shoes of the people who have to sift through the undoubtedly high number of applications that come in.
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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 1:06 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:I'm not an expert in this area, but I would have thought the applicant list for the entry-level (zero experience) analyst roles would be choc-full with highly qualified local candidates. Keep in mind that it's a lot easier for them to find appoint someone locally than deal with relocation, employment pass, etc. for a person who is overseas. Generally speaking, a company would only want to deal with that stuff in order to get someone with strong relevant experience. I'm not trying to be negative here, just putting myself in the shoes of the people who have to sift through the undoubtedly high number of applications that come in.


Yes, you're right. I didn't factor in the immigration sponsorship and relocation issue, which is obviously cumbersome. That could be one factor when considering whether to hire from a pool of highly qualified local applicants vs. a pool of those overseas. Especially when you take into account the impact of today's global economy.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 1:10 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:I'm not an expert in this area, but I would have thought the applicant list for the entry-level (zero experience) analyst roles would be choc-full with highly qualified local candidates. Keep in mind that it's a lot easier for them to find appoint someone locally than deal with relocation, employment pass, etc. for a person who is overseas. Generally speaking, a company would only want to deal with that stuff in order to get someone with strong relevant experience. I'm not trying to be negative here, just putting myself in the shoes of the people who have to sift through the undoubtedly high number of applications that come in.


Right on... and since attar1297 has already been rejected, his goose is cooked at Accenture. If a person has relevant technical experience and depth (SAP, imfrastructure, etc), then maybe a a technical job. But he does not have enough experience for the higher level jobs, like management consulting... and if he would think about it, why would an Accenture client pay out the wazoo for green 'management' talent? They won't.

Accenture will hire the technical people it needs to fulfill a client's needs, but the consulting roles are filled from within... the trainee program, the program that puts green recruits in expensive day rate roles.

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Postby attar1297 » Sun, 12 Feb 2012 1:20 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:I'm not an expert in this area, but I would have thought the applicant list for the entry-level (zero experience) analyst roles would be choc-full with highly qualified local candidates. Keep in mind that it's a lot easier for them to find appoint someone locally than deal with relocation, employment pass, etc. for a person who is overseas. Generally speaking, a company would only want to deal with that stuff in order to get someone with strong relevant experience. I'm not trying to be negative here, just putting myself in the shoes of the people who have to sift through the undoubtedly high number of applications that come in.


Right on... and since attar1297 has already been rejected, his goose is cooked at Accenture. If a person has relevant technical experience and depth (SAP, imfrastructure, etc), then maybe a a technical job. But he does not have enough experience for the higher level jobs, like management consulting... and if he would think about it, why would an Accenture client pay out the wazoo for green 'management' talent? They won't.

Accenture will hire the technical people it needs to fulfill a client's needs, but the consulting roles are filled from within... the trainee program, the program that puts green recruits in expensive day rate roles.


Hi Amigo and Strong Eagle,

Based on what you two said, the best way for me is to wait for couple of more years to garner more professional experience or maybe to simply join on a technical position (not necessarily at Accenture) to work my way "up there." I will reconsider all the opportunities that are out there for me.

Thanks for the advice guys! :)


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