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Postby FaeLLe » Thu, 21 Jan 2010 8:13 pm

Hi all,

Time for a friend to negotiate a package with Accenture Consulting in Singapore.

What could he expect to get paid for 2 years of high end IT consulting exposure in Singapore?

I am presuming my expenses to be,

Rent - 2500 (including utilities for HDB)
Travel - 500 (him + wife)
Mobile - 200 (him + wife)
Food - 1000 (him + wife)

Is there anything he has grossly left out that could be expected to dish out for?

What about benefits? Does anyone have experience with negotiating for these for a firm of similar nature or accenture itself?[/list]
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Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 8:21 am

Are you new or coming on as an experienced consultant? I get that you are new... or you wouldn't be asking this question. I have to laugh... Accenture would be quite happy to put you to work on a major Asian corporate compensation program even though you don't even know what to ask for yourself.

They will tell you what you will get because they have already figured out what your bill rate will be, and what margin they expect to obtain from you. As a greenhorn, Accenture is somewhat limited in the day rate they can bill to the client... still exorbitant... but not like the seniors.

PS: What's "high end"? No doubt, Accenture makes the best PowerPoint decks of all companies I have encountered (indeed, I think it is part of corporate training) but actually producing something?

High end is my Accenture friend with 15 years worth of experience, a keen mind, a ton of Asia experience, and a code of ethics that transcends the money grubbing experience that is Accenture (and all other consulting firms). Is this you? If not, you're not 'high end', no matter what the recruiters told you. You're a well paid grunt.

You... new... write processes, do slide decks, and pretend to be the expert, while all the time hoping that you have a mentor like my friend.

Seriously, though... best of luck... a stint at a consulting company is great resume fodder.

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Postby FaeLLe » Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:05 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:Are you new or coming on as an experienced consultant? I get that you are new... or you wouldn't be asking this question. I have to laugh... Accenture would be quite happy to put you to work on a major Asian corporate compensation program even though you don't even know what to ask for yourself.


That sounds good. Would you be able to help quantify such a package.
I could really use some exposure on that front.

The thing is this is my first organization transition since my career started and since I am not too used to being in Singapore as someone running his daily life thought I could use some advice.

Have been in singapore before to do my MBA though and I have loved the place :)

PS: What's "high end"? No doubt, Accenture makes the best PowerPoint decks of all companies I have encountered (indeed, I think it is part of corporate training) but actually producing something?


Sorry if this came out wrong but by high end I meant something that would be appreciated in my line of work and extensive exposure to such opportunities.



In all truth am really excited with this opportunity to come work in Singapore
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Postby intelliice » Mon, 25 Jan 2010 2:49 pm

Hi FaeLLe,

In the same boat as yours, in that i have an offer to join ACN in Singapore. I have never been to Singapore though unlike yourself and dont know what to expect for living expenses for myself & family (spouse and 2 kids). Of course, i have done some research reading from forums such as this one and talking to associates who have worked at Accenture, not necessarily in Asia though.

Sure, it would good to hear any quantification from either yourself or "Strong eagle". BTW, at what position are you going in there (or considering)? It would be great if you can share some more details about your profile. Feel free to PM if you prefer.

A little about myself. Close to 10 years experience now and currently based out of North America.

Cheers!

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Postby FaeLLe » Mon, 25 Jan 2010 4:38 pm

intelliice wrote:Hi FaeLLe,

In the same boat as yours, in that i have an offer to join ACN in Singapore. I have never been to Singapore though unlike yourself and dont know what to expect for living expenses for myself & family (spouse and 2 kids). Of course, i have done some research reading from forums such as this one and talking to associates who have worked at Accenture, not necessarily in Asia though.

Sure, it would good to hear any quantification from either yourself or "Strong eagle". BTW, at what position are you going in there (or considering)? It would be great if you can share some more details about your profile. Feel free to PM if you prefer.

A little about myself. Close to 10 years experience now and currently based out of North America.

Cheers!


Hello,

Can you share your email id? We can talk offline since forum rules do not allow either of us to PM due to low post count.

Once I get your email ID you can delete the post that way it stays off the internet too.

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Postby intelliice » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 4:43 am

FaeLLe - For email, same as my id here. It is a gmail account. Send me a note with your profile and we can go from there.

Anyone else here on the board that can share their experience working with ACN Singapore. Looking for any guidelines on compensation or benefits that can be expected at Manager level.

Thanks for sharing your views folks.

Cheers!

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Postby FaeLLe » Tue, 26 Jan 2010 4:56 am

intelliice wrote:FaeLLe - For email, same as my id here. It is a gmail account. Send me a note with your profile and we can go from there.

Anyone else here on the board that can share their experience working with ACN Singapore. Looking for any guidelines on compensation or benefits that can be expected at Manager level.

Thanks for sharing your views folks.

Cheers!


Hi lets chat on gtalk then.

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Postby intelliice » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:09 am

Folks - No one here connected with Accenture then? Its hard for me to believe that there would be no expats at Managerial level :-) in the consulting practise. Perhaps a local wants to chime in ;-

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 1:09 pm

They are probably smart or embarrassed. :-k

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Postby intelliice » Wed, 27 Jan 2010 1:49 pm

Hi Strong Eagle,

I was hoping you can share your wisdom on the subject here. You did mention in your earlier post about a friend at Accenture who is doing "high-end consulting" work. Thoughts/ideas ?

Thanks.

Strong Eagle wrote:Are you new or coming on as an experienced consultant? I get that you are new... or you wouldn't be asking this question. I have to laugh... Accenture would be quite happy to put you to work on a major Asian corporate compensation program even though you don't even know what to ask for yourself.

They will tell you what you will get because they have already figured out what your bill rate will be, and what margin they expect to obtain from you. As a greenhorn, Accenture is somewhat limited in the day rate they can bill to the client... still exorbitant... but not like the seniors.

PS: What's "high end"? No doubt, Accenture makes the best PowerPoint decks of all companies I have encountered (indeed, I think it is part of corporate training) but actually producing something?

High end is my Accenture friend with 15 years worth of experience, a keen mind, a ton of Asia experience, and a code of ethics that transcends the money grubbing experience that is Accenture (and all other consulting firms). Is this you? If not, you're not 'high end', no matter what the recruiters told you. You're a well paid grunt.

You... new... write processes, do slide decks, and pretend to be the expert, while all the time hoping that you have a mentor like my friend.

Seriously, though... best of luck... a stint at a consulting company is great resume fodder.

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Postby jaypee » Wed, 03 Feb 2010 5:43 pm

I also applied to ACN in my job search and my skills almost exactly matched the job descrip that they put out. I was rejected. I would do a bunch of research on them as a company before jumping in. There is a website about how bad accenture is, of course there is a lack of positive feedback. I recommend a read just to get an idea. Sorry can't find the URL.

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Postby FaeLLe » Wed, 03 Feb 2010 8:19 pm

jaypee wrote:I also applied to ACN in my job search and my skills almost exactly matched the job descrip that they put out. I was rejected. I would do a bunch of research on them as a company before jumping in. There is a website about how bad accenture is, of course there is a lack of positive feedback. I recommend a read just to get an idea. Sorry can't find the URL.


There is always a certain amount of bad mouthing that is done about every organization in the world and Accenture has no shortage of those either.

Definitely it did not become one of the most successful and best technology consulting in the firm by being a bad firm. Being a consultant comes with its own downsides and that has nothing to do with anything organization specific.

Ideal negative perks that make people whine and cry are,
- Un balanced work personal life
- Extensive travel
- Odd hours

These could be compounded by a complicated personal relationship, family dependencies etc. If these are not for you then you just cannot blame the firm, change your line for a drop in pay or explore entrepreneurship.


As for your case I can understand the fury of not getting shortlisted. Being the great firm that they are these could be primary reasons,
- Someone better or many others applied with better skillsets for the same job
- The Accenture people evaluating your profile did not feel your skills are in line with what they need

Good luck for future prospects.

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Postby apollo_69 » Sat, 20 Feb 2010 7:47 pm

FaelLe / intellice - I joined ACN Singapore a few months ago on a local contract/salary at consultant level (5 years work exp in the UK), like you I did a lot of hunting around on the internet so if you have any questions feel free to PM :)

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Postby noble_cute » Tue, 27 Jul 2010 3:39 pm

apollo_69 wrote:FaelLe / intellice - I joined ACN Singapore a few months ago on a local contract/salary at consultant level (5 years work exp in the UK), like you I did a lot of hunting around on the internet so if you have any questions feel free to PM :)


Hi...
i will be joining ACN singapore too. appreciate if you can share more about REAL working situation there since i will work under ATS. Is it really scary as what i have read from one of the forum ?

Thank you.

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Postby FaeLLe » Tue, 27 Jul 2010 3:42 pm

noble_cute wrote:Hi...
i will be joining ACN singapore too. appreciate if you can share more about REAL working situation there since i will work under ATS. Is it really scary as what i have read from one of the forum ?

Thank you.


I think its the same as every firm, you are expected to work hard to commit and you work hard if you want to grow.

Swim to get across or drown forever :)


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