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is my EP going to get rejected?

Post by valhensing » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:01 am

Hi, i was studying in singapore for 4 years at an institute and i just recently got a job offer at a new company and they're going to apply for my EP. However, my situation is:

So the new company is applying for my EP, im going to write no experiences, and my degree is awarded by an university accepted by MOM. what are the chances of me getting EP? (im qualified for Q1)

I have to cancel my student pass and issued a social visit pass of 1 month today so seriously, i need advices for the worst and what i can do to increase my chances. Still filling in the EP form so whatever you say, i can write it there. basically, just tell me what i can do please

I'm desperate, the new job offer is really good (EP!)

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Post by Saint » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:08 am

So you have been working illegally in Singapore for 6 months! And tax free as well I bet! The onus is as much on yourself to ensure you have the correct permit in place before you start working for a company

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:04 pm

Saint wrote:So you have been working illegally in Singapore for 6 months! And tax free as well I bet! The onus is as much on yourself to ensure you have the correct permit in place before you start working for a company
Did I miss something in the OP's post?
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Re: is my EP going to get rejected?

Post by jpatokal » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 1:05 pm

valhensing wrote:So the new company is applying for my EP, im going to write no experiences, and my degree is awarded by an university accepted by MOM. what are the chances of me getting EP? (im qualified for Q1)
Reasonable. While nobody knows the exact weightings, esp. after last year's tightening up, Sg has traditionally been pretty favorable to foreign students who graduate from Sg universities.
I have to cancel my student pass and issued a social visit pass of 1 month today so seriously, i need advices for the worst and what i can do to increase my chances. Still filling in the EP form so whatever you say, i can write it there. basically, just tell me what i can do please
:o

There is nothing you or we can do to improve your chances: your education is fixed, your salary is fixed, and you presumably have no relevant work experience (?). Write the truth, cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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Post by Saint » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 1:48 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Saint wrote:So you have been working illegally in Singapore for 6 months! And tax free as well I bet! The onus is as much on yourself to ensure you have the correct permit in place before you start working for a company
Did I miss something in the OP's post?
The OP must have amended his original posting while I was typing mine. It definitely said he had been working for 6 months but his current employer hadn't applied for permit yet.

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Post by valhensing » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 1:54 pm

And i didnt graduate from Singapore university, it's an institute and there was complications in my student pass as well (had to change the course but did not change the student pass).

Anyway, can anybody tell me the chances of me getting the EP :(. I know it's very complicated
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 4:04 pm

Probably slim.
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Post by valhensing » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 4:17 pm

:???: :((

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Post by valhensing » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 4:19 pm

i'll post back the resulf for anybody who has been in the same situation :( probably my new company would take back the offer if they take a look at my EP form

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Post by observer » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:16 pm

Not meant to discourage you but I would say don't get your hopes up too high. I would be very very surprised if MOM approves your EP. The reality is, just your lack of (any) experience will render your chances to next to zero. That alone puts you at a level field with all the locals, therefore negating any hope of an advantage. Unless you finished top of class.

Furthermore, your posts are quite contradictory. It appears that you either don't know much about your school or you can't communicate well. First you say "So the new company is applying for my EP, im going to write no experiences, and my degree is awarded by an university accepted by MOM. what are the chances of me getting EP?". And then went on to say that "And i didnt graduate from Singapore university, it's an institute and there was complications in my student pass as well".

Plus, how could you not know that as a foreigner, you need a work pass to work?

To all those foreign students reading, here's a tip. Start looking for a job around 3 months before your student visa / course expires. Better yet, internships with MNCs are the best way to go. This way your school actually helps put you in a company, then you get that on the job experience which helps your case with the MOM.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:22 pm

The whole thing is a bit dodgy as the employer should have know that an EP was required. I think he's SNAFU'd but one can never tell on this little red dot.
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Post by amarettoSour » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:37 pm

just a note.. i applied with only 6 months of relevant experience and got my EP approved.. so it seems that experience isn't always a huge factor.

i'm also confused by OP's situation though.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:40 pm

Where is your passport from? :wink:
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Post by valhensing » Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:07 am

I graduated from an institute in singpore but my cert is from a university accepted by MOM if you know what i mean.

I have experiences doing freelance in singapore (engaging in projects but i dont earn money from it) but it's the law that forbid student from my school earn money/working while holding student pass so should i write in? Im sure they would be happy to write it as internship? Shoud i write in to get my chances up? It's relevant work experiences
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Post by jpatokal » Tue, 19 Jan 2010 4:13 pm

valhensing wrote:I know you hve to have work pass in order for woking but my old company said it's 3monhs probation and they dont apply fo those in pobation. Aftr that they delay the applying so i quit.
Well, at least you were smart enough to leave at this point. Do not mention this as work experience.
I graduated from an institute in singpore but my cert is from a university accepted by MOM if you know what i mean.
No, I don't. Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say? Did you graduate from another university before coming to Sg or what!?
I have experiences doing freelance in singapore (engaging in projects but i dont earn money from it) but it's the law that forbid student from my school earn money/working while holding student pass so should i write in? Im sure they would be happy to write it as internship? Shoud i write in to get my chances up? It's relevant work experiences
Yes, any testimonials about unpaid internships would be very good.
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