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Postby nakatago » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 7:36 am

Bafana wrote: If it was true then having so many Aussies in Singapore would increase the crime rate here and since a lot of them hang around Holland Village


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Postby utopia » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 8:19 am

Bafana wrote:
If it was true then having so many Aussies in Singapore would increase the crime rate here and since a lot of them hang around Holland Village

Precisely, so why arent there Aussies committing the same level of crimes in Singapore? ....waitaminute, perhaps it's the legal system in Singapore... Nooo..... <<cue>> you can't be serious!

Meantime, outside of your NIMBY circle :
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/child- ... 5842066955

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Postby ksl » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:17 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Word! =D>
Is that Singlish for something :???: How can genetics be racist, when like i said, we all have the same gene, and one cannot differentiate race, I'm a little confused Bafana, where you see the racism in genetics, homosapiens are just that, environmental factors do the rest. You must remember we all originate from Africa.

There is no such thing as pure blood, just breeding habits and migration. and class distinction in which social divide is more evident between rich and poor in developed Countries, which may have an effect on crime, nothing to do with race at all. I don't think it is necessary to cut and paste, when it boils down to easy money, v's jail sentences, or punishment. Harsher the punishment less crime in my opinion. Many trends and role models arrive from the USA, and are adopted world wide, the images sent out by the media does have influence on kids, I'm not saying all kids turn to crime, I'm saying the influence is out there on every street corner and in every night club too

Have you ever seen Snoop dog's home pono video :lol: The fact that everyone wants a buzz is there, though some unfortunates get addicted, and dragged down. It's all a vicious circle, and if you fall into it, you have to deal with it. Better to stay well out of it!

I'm sure that even the bankers and middle class managers that got busted at a party in Singapore a couple of years ago, have learnt the hard way. The longer these crimes are committed, the more risk is directly on your doorstep, and if you have kids, you should be worried, you don't have to live in a crime ridden area, to be effected. Just a visit to a night club and a little peer pressure is enough. I'm of course blaming drugs, for many crimes that are committed directly or indirectly, hardly pointing fingers at any race.

I also agree that repeating sex offenders, should be castrated, they cannot help themselves.

Have a look at pervers homesexuality from a TV star, who gets away with it, the guy found dead in his pool, was sexually assaulted. The father of the deadman is still seeking justice, though the case has been closed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 751965.stm

If Australia has a problem, it will have to get much worse before it gets better, its like everywhere else in the world, if it doesn't effect them why bother!

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Postby x9200 » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:34 pm

utopia wrote:Precisely, so why arent there Aussies committing the same level of crimes in Singapore? ....waitaminute, perhaps it's the legal system in Singapore... Nooo..... <<cue>> you can't be serious!

And this is the same social profile community of Aussies that settled down in Singapore as it is (even on average) in Australia? Perhaps you could prove this first.

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Postby Vaucluse » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 1:43 pm

Bafana wrote:For once I agree with Vit V


NO you don't, you're just being a Trojan horse. :)

Very well put Bafana, but you will see the obfuscation the next posts . . .

utopia wrote:
Precisely, so why arent there Aussies committing the same level of crimes in Singapore? ....waitaminute, perhaps it's the legal system in Singapore... Nooo..... <<cue>> you can't be serious!


Hardly a valid argument as you claim it is inherent in the Australian psyche to commit crimes, irrespective of the surroundings.

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And this is the same social profile community of Aussies that settled down in Singapore as it is (even on average) in Australia? Perhaps you could prove this first.


Well, it is irrelevant as utopia brushes with a very wide brush . . . it is all Australians


Added to which, utopia still doesn't share with us his background . . . where he hails from, despite repeated requests. Is he ashamed of his heritage? Is he ashamed of his parents? Is he ashamed of his country?
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Postby Bafana » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 4:08 am

ksl wrote:How can genetics be racist, when like i said, we all have the same gene, and one cannot differentiate race, I'm a little confused Bafana, where you see the racism in genetics, homosapiens are just that, environmental factors do the rest. You must remember we all originate from Africa.


Genetics or claim to fame/purity of genetics has been used since man started throwing rocks at each other and forms a key basis or justification for racism. Too many examples to choose from so will take the obvious - Nazi Germany.
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Postby Bafana » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 4:21 am

utopia wrote:Precisely, so why arent there Aussies committing the same level of crimes in Singapore? ....waitaminute, perhaps it's the legal system in Singapore... Nooo..... <<cue>> you can't be serious!

Meantime, outside of your NIMBY circle


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7216890.stm

Wow, this cut and paste stuff is easy...

As for your commentary I am trying real hard to find a polite way of responding to you. Perhaps the best way is by highlighting the fact that Singapore has a very large prison population and they are building more spaces creating a mega prison. Must be because you need so many foreign talented Aussie crimes or could be the crime rate is high in Singapore and people get locked away quickly before they can keep offending.
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Postby utopia » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 7:28 am

Let’s make this short.
To reference to the OP : Crime exists in Australia (as in all countries), and based on daily news articles in Australian papers, it is hardly racial.

If I did not believe that the situation can change, there was no point bringing in most of my posts on this topic - despite what some seem to perceive to be efforts to disparage Australia.
As Australia is a democratic country, change will not occur without the “will of the people”

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:17 pm

Whoaaaaaaaaa there Nellie . . . now for a bit of back-pedaling Image

[quote="utopia"]Let’s make this short.

Your choice as it is your post

To reference to the OP : Crime exists in Australia (as in all countries), and based on daily news articles in Australian papers, it is hardly racial.

Very true, what made you change your tone?

If I did not believe that the situation can change, there was no point bringing in most of my posts on this topic - despite what some seem to perceive to be efforts to disparage Australia.

How utterly disingenuous of you. Yours is an interest based on wanting to help Australia change. Almost poetic . . . but absurd

As Australia is a democratic country, change will not occur without the “will of the people”
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 1:03 pm

A quick review of his early posts might shed a little light. Of course that doesn't differentiate between native or naturalized.

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 1:29 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:A quick review of his early posts might shed a little light. Of course that doesn't differentiate between native or naturalized.


Ah, that does shed some light . . . he doesn't seem to be Singaporean by birth . . . so he has sponged off and made use of Singapore and now he intends the same for Australia. Just the kind of people we don't need to clutter up our shores.

Utopia, Australia is a miserable place full of crime and a population that is genetically inclined to crime - - - even those who are naturalised AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE YOU.

Stay in Singapore, best advice I can give you, or return to your actual country of origin of which you are so obviously ashamed



As an aside, I met a Chinese guy recently who had emigrated to Australia with his family but returns here every two months for a week. I asked him if he missed all the food here . . . to which he replied that he doesn't really as he stuffs his bag full of these delicacies (roast pork, bak wah etc...) whenever he heads back to Oz.

I asked him if he didn't feel odd to break so many laws of his adopted country, especially after being relatively free after his life here.

He just looked at me incredulously and answered that the guys at quarantine should look more carefully at the passenger's bags.

freak. Hope he gets deported


Hey, utopia, he's either one of yours or one of your adopted country . . . change yourself before you wish to change others
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Postby nakatago » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 2:06 pm

Vaucluse wrote:As an aside, I met a Chinese guy recently who had emigrated to Australia with his family but returns here every two months for a week. I asked him if he missed all the food here . . . to which he replied that he doesn't really as he stuffs his bag full of these delicacies (roast pork, bak wah etc...) whenever he heads back to Oz.

I asked him if he didn't feel odd to break so many laws of his adopted country, especially after being relatively free after his life here.

He just looked at me incredulously and answered that the guys at quarantine should look more carefully at the passenger's bags.


Knowing why oz put those quarantine laws in place, i say sic some dingoes on the bloke.

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 2:29 pm

Well, this guy was also complaining about how cops abuse while driving . . . calling Australians racist.

I asked him if he drove there the way he does and did here . . . of course, why? he asks


So, utopia . . . care to share where you are from and why you are at such great pains to get to a place that is inherently violent?

On the other hand, you can make a difference. You are either a part of the problem or a part of the solution. What are you doing to redress the imbalance between crime and punishment in Australia?

Or are you just one of those whining pricks who complain and complain yet expect others to do what you feel needs doing?

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 3:37 pm

Bafana wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7216890.stm

Wow, this cut and paste stuff is easy...

This particular one is actually very nice if you confront it with what I posted earlier:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_r ... per-capita

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 3:47 pm

good lord, more copy-pasta.

tl;dr


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