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Is EPEC needed if a person is holding LTSVP ?

Post by kskps » Tue, 29 Dec 2009 5:06 pm

Hi,
I am a SPR and My spouse has just got his LTSVP valid for an year(sponsored by myself).
I understand from the MOM site as well as from discussions here, that EPEC facilitates the holder to stay here for some time and look for job. LTSVP (issued based on local contact) also allows to stay for some time.

even as EPEC Holder, EP Approval is not guaranteed. It has to undergo the second level of approval s ubject to the employer's justification of why a foreigner has to be hired.

Is there any other benefits that EPEC has?
like, EPEC holder has priority over other potential candidates (without EPEC) during job hunting?

If no such priorities are possible, then we need not apply EPEC for my husband as this will be wasting both ours and MOM time (mainly) as well? :D

Thanks in advance :)

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Post by ksl » Tue, 29 Dec 2009 6:30 pm

You can simply look for a job on LTSVP and apply for a EP or S Pass, which is normally given priority for a spouse, then after 2 years they can apply for the PR status.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:03 pm

Not everybody is qualified to get an EPEC. So, unless he has an academic degree from an approved university, he cannot get one. Also, if he was issued an EPEC it is good for only 12 months and cannot be renewed. The LTSVP can be renewed as it's based on your sponsorship.

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Post by kskps » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:06 am

If LTSVP is enough, then let us not apply for EPEC then.
Thank you for the prompt replies :)

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Post by kskps » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:01 am

Few more queries:
We are keen to settle here. Hence thinking of ways to make him notable in the job market.

# Since I am SPR, is my husband eligible to apply for LPR? (SMC site say about educational qualification only. Not anything related to if spouse is a SPR)
# Since his PR application was rejected very recently, during October 2009, is my husband eligible to apply for LPR?
# Recently ICA has restricted the issuance of PR. Almost a larger % of the applications are being turned down. Could you pls let me know if it is the same case of LPR?
# If he is eligible to apply, and fortunately got the LPR too, then will this have same preference as PR in the job market? or will be still treated as a foreigner?

I know thats a lot of questions. But cannot help it as i am confused :???:

Thanks in advance. :)

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 1:59 pm

LPR is the same thing. The only difference is usually LPR is applied for before the person arrives in Singapore. That's why it's called Landed PR. They are allowed to land in the country and are guaranteed PR by virtue of their qualifications "Provided which, they can find an employer to hire them" The biggest difference is that the employer does not have to explain why he wants to hire them as it's through ICA and not MOM. If your husband was rejected already, then he obviously does not have the requisite qualifications to get LPR anyway.

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Post by kskps » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 2:22 pm

perhaps rejection could be due to quota issue :P
anyways thank you.

But still i dint get the clear idea of whether LPRs are considered as foreigners in the job market or treated equivalent to PRs?
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 3:26 pm

If the employer understands what an LPR is, then they already know, as a PR as there is not any visa that needs to be applied for. The employer doesn't do anything and the LPR gets a chop in their passport with a 3 month temporary employment pass (EP) while the PR processing takes place (approximate duration of time for processing). Unfortunately, large quantities of employers are unsure about LPR just like you are. They are also confused about "Letter of Consent" that is often issued by the MOM for DP holders to work without an employment pass. So, often it is up to the job seeker to educate the employer if they can.

As there aren't any quotas with regards to PR, I don't think that was the problem. The odds are that either you haven't been a PR long enough, or you don't earn enough or you haven't been married long enough and they feel it might be a marriage of convenience or any number of other reasons. But I can assure you, quota's are not the problem. Mostly they are looking to see if it looks like you are a stayer or a quitter. By making you reapply in a couple of years, it will usually weed out the quitters or those who where only planning on using the PR instead of truly wanting to resettle here. :-|
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Post by kskps » Wed, 30 Dec 2009 4:22 pm

Thank you very much! That clears lotsa stuffs about LPR. :)

Are there no quotas for PR ?! :shock: :o

Then there are lotsa assumptions prevail among people.
I hear from number of people saying that
# There are quotas alloted for each race
# There are quotas alloted for max no of PRs to be approved in an year!
# that application should be made before 15th day of a month! etc etc.

Yeah Most of the reasons you had mentioned as possible causes for my spouse PR rejection holds good in my case!
# I am a SPR from Feb 2009 only
# Married on Jun 2009
# Applied PR for spouse by August itself.
but income status would not have been a cause because I earn a decent salary per month which is enough to run a family with a kid too!!

But i know a lot of people who applied PR for their spouse within 3 months from their marriage date and got it approved. And i know other extreme cases too who are well qualified for PR ( interms of education, finance, family ties) but has been rejected more than once !

ICA wont let us judge the reasons for rejections! :(

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