How many expats find Singapore public transport efficient?

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Post by Hugo_R » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 1:44 pm

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Saint wrote: I must apologies on behalf of the Singapore Government that they haven't built enough total useless 1 bed HDB flats in a convenient location to CBP, how very unthoughtful of them.
Single bedrooms flats are very useful! New couples without kids do not need to rent a 2 bedroom and living with roommates as a couple is pretty inconveniencing. Might be part of the reason the fertility rate of Singapore is so low. :?
Hahaha.. That was funny! Actually 2 bedroom apts are also ok its just one extra bedroom. You could dump all your unnecessary furniture there and if you have guests coming, they can be accomodated easily.

But, its really the 3 bedrooms and 4 bedrooms that are really an overkill. Some new HDB estates like Simei, Pasir Ris, Senkang and Punngol have minimum 3 bedrooms and some have 4 bedrooms! And cost like 1.8K to 2k in rent. But thats ok, as I guess they were made keeping Singaporean families in mind and not expats.
Well a smaller apartment cost less to rent. I use a garbage for my garbage, not a 200-300$ a month room :???:

Granted I don't live in Singapore yet, but in Montreal I've always rented 1 bedroom and enjoyed the slightly lower monthly fees than having a 2 bedroom.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 3:11 pm

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Granted I don't live in Singapore yet, but in Montreal I've always rented 1 bedroom and enjoyed the slightly lower monthly fees than having a 2 bedroom.
But there is one singular difference between Montreal and Singapore and that difference make all the common sense one would need to see the error of your thinking.

Singapore has a major land scarcity so therefore when building something vertical they have to build housing units that have the widest demographic appeal possible for the square footage available. a one bedroom does not cater for the governments necessity of providing expansion for couples nor does is cater for the smallest family unit (one child). The minimum family unit for a couple is 2 bedrooms as the government want babies to fuel the economy, NS and replacement citizens.

That's why Singaporean Singles are not allowed to buy HDB flats until they are 35 years old minimum.
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Post by Vaucluse » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 3:27 pm

How many expats find Singapore public transport efficient?

42
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 3:43 pm

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42
AAAhhhhh! You finally found the question! Good onya!

I see you and FB are up to your normal stuff again! You get great joy from that I can tell....... :wink:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by Vaucluse » Sat, 02 Jan 2010 4:04 pm

42 is the definitive answer . . . quite extraordinary and a bot spooky, really.


Ah, FB . . . luckily he is thick as two bricks and can't hold his own in any discussion . . . the word buffoon describes him perfectly.


My very first post he was here . . . I ignored him . . . then he continued . . . and now t's just fun to make him look silly . . . he's a fool. (And English . . . sorry saint and Plavt))
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Post by EADG » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 4:26 pm

To constructively respond to the OP as it's a fair and reasonable question, PT here is pretty good to very good. Like everything, it depends. So , depending on where you live and where you need to go.

For example I would take the MRT but it's not convenient for where I live nor work. Plus some of the MRT stations are cavernous and have you walking further to the train than to your destination. So I ride buses but have to change even though door-to-door it's not very far.

Taxis have their good and weak points, much has been already documented on this forum.

Concur with the comparisons to Japan and to a slightly lesser extent, HK, where it is better, cleaner, and you generally get a better class politeness-wise of passengers, but that's more of a cultural thing and not so much reserved for PT.

For buses, in Japan they run to a timetable, which is handy if you have connections to make. That's probably a few years off for Singapore, if ever.

Here you get idiots stumbling out of their seats before the bus stops, unnecessarily inconveniencing everyone and making themselves look foolish just to get off the bus 2 seconds ahead of (what?) others. I always find myself walking past them at the same stops....

I too struggled with the location of CBP, where I had a job offer and eventually turned it down with that location being part of the decision.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 5:25 pm

EADG wrote: Here you get idiots stumbling out of their seats before the bus stops, unnecessarily inconveniencing everyone and making themselves look foolish just to get off the bus 2 seconds ahead of (what?) others. I always find myself walking past them at the same stops....
I, on the other end of the spectrum, find that the few that make their way to the door early are being the most efficient all around as that way, if it's the MRT, all can get out quicker (assuming the doors aren't blocked by those trying to get in before all are out) and on the buses it is easier if one or two are making their way to the door than all at once in a crowded bus. So, I find that two seconds all the more important in the course of the buses journey if they say 2 seconds at every stop maybe they would run on their timetables a little bit better. It's the inconsiderate laggards in the bus and the inconsiderate drivers in the bus lanes that cause the problems. Oh, I'm one of those who like to get out first at the MRT as that way I not hung up behind a hundred buffoons who don't know that they are supposed to stand on the right and walk on the left of the escalators.

So, I guess it just depends on P.O.V. :mrgreen:
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Post by EADG » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:23 pm

I'm totally with you with the morons on elevators, in bus aisles and shopping malls and the like, I just don't like people climbing over me while the bus is moving, or expecting me to climb over them to get to a seat.

With the exceptions of the old, pregnant, injured, etc. who of course can always do what they need to whenever they need to.

The AFAIK, uniquely Singaporean practice of sitting on the outside seat and not moving to the vacant inside seat, and forcing the other person to awkwardly climb over them to get to it is pretty unbecoming and lacking in care for fellow humans.
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:18 pm

EADG wrote: The AFAIK, uniquely Singaporean practice of sitting on the outside seat and not moving to the vacant inside seat, and forcing the other person to awkwardly climb over them to get to it is pretty unbecoming and lacking in care for fellow humans.
I have a strange Ang Mo habit of getting on a quarter full bus will everybody on the aisle and, while it's not a much fun now but when my shape was ROUND and 26kg more, I always picked the seat with a fat slob sitting on the aisle (auntie or uncle, didn't matter) and after stepping on their shoes, sticking my arse in their face and if lucky farting on the way by and beating them around the head and shoulders with my bag or briefcase, then unceremoniously dropping into the seat (remember I was not very tall but pretty wide) and that force usually ejected them into the aisle usually with one cheek only left on the seat. IN the words of Mastercard. Priceless!

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