amarettoSour wrote:Hi All,
So I recently received a job offer and my employer have submitted my EP application. It was rejected today even though I have qualification from a recognized institution and I meet the salary requirement.
I've been reading around the forum that it's been harder to get the pass approved, but I thought I wouldn't have a problem since my university is a pretty well known / prestigious one from the US.. so exactly how hard has it been to get approved anyway?
My HR did find an error in my initial application. For my qualification I put "Diploma" instead of Bachelor's Degree... stupid mistake, but back in the US when you say you have a diploma from a university it obviously means bachelor's degree so I didn't even think twice. could this be the reason? they have called MOM and was allowed to resubmit my application, but i'm getting very nervous about this.
Thank you!
PS.amarettoSour wrote:Hi All,
So I recently received a job offer and my employer have submitted my EP application. It was rejected today even though I have qualification from a recognized institution and I meet the salary requirement.
I've been reading around the forum that it's been harder to get the pass approved, but I thought I wouldn't have a problem since my university is a pretty well known / prestigious one from the US.. so exactly how hard has it been to get approved anyway?
My HR did find an error in my initial application. For my qualification I put "Diploma" instead of Bachelor's Degree... stupid mistake, but back in the US when you say you have a diploma from a university it obviously means bachelor's degree so I didn't even think twice. could this be the reason? they have called MOM and was allowed to resubmit my application, but i'm getting very nervous about this.
Thank you!
amarettoSour wrote:well.. i interviewed with three different places and was offered a job by all three of them, so I would hope that my job/skills are somewhat on demand. they probably would have preferred to hire locals as well if there are any, right? i'm not a westerner like some of you, but I did live in the US for awhile.
Actually, no. A lot of companies prefer to hire foreigners, especially those on EP's & S passes as they only have to pay a $50 levy (S Passes only) No levies for EP holders and no Employers CPF payments to make. The lower EP's like S, Q, & P2 passes often do not have any perks attached like housing as well and if applicant is Asian then often they will work for less than the average local with the same qualifications. Also, in tight times, they are not a likely to jump ship as it's a gamble whether the next company can convince MOM that they HAVE to have a foreigner. Also, foreigners cannot just "walk off the job" like locals tend to do in certain industries. Please do not make the mistake of thinking you are unique or non-replaceable. That's would be a fatal mistake and also bad for your ego if things don't go your way.
plus it is listed in (or similar to) one of those lists of jobs that are expected to be on demand in Singapore within the next couple years.
A couple of years is a long time. A lot can change in a couple of months. Most companies don't hire with the expectation of possibly needing you in a couple of years. Too big of an impact on their bottom line having you do nothing while waiting for job to become in demand.
I'm not an expert, but the impression I got from the HR guy was that, if they can find a reason to turn down an EP, they will.amarettoSour wrote:well.. i interviewed with three different places and was offered a job by all three of them, so I would hope that my job/skills are somewhat on demand. they probably would have preferred to hire locals as well if there are any, right? i'm not a westerner like some of you, but I did live in the US for awhile.
plus it is listed in (or similar to) one of those lists of jobs that are expected to be on demand in Singapore within the next couple years.
Not trying to bring you down, but the HR director I have been speaking to, told me, standards for a good application for a lower EP pass= Degree and 4 years experience in a specific field.amarettoSour wrote:thanks sms, no need to explain yourself. i fully trust you on the statistics you've given
I would only qualify for the lower EP's, so this makes me even more nervous =( would it matter that I graduated from a good school? I only have a year of experience so far, so my qualification is quite literally my only leverage.
thanks again for the help =D
If you want to work in Singapore, you need to stand out in the crowd, what can you deliver, can you make more revenue, more jobs. get straight to the point, give me a year or two and i will produce this result, your HR can only produce your documents. If you don't make the grade why should they carry you, you need to make significant change and document your own progress otherwise that will be taken away from you?amarettoSour wrote:sundaymorningstaple, thanks for the insight! one of the companies interested in hiring me made it sound like hiring a foreigner is such a hard thing to do and they would have been better off hiring a local, yet they still offered me a job on the spot. that's why i rejected that offer... among other things *rolls eyes
do you have any comments on how much harder it's been lately to get that EP approval? I know from reading other posts you have a lot of experience =)
PS: no amaretto sour in 15 years is blasphemy! i demand you get it next time you go out
This is not quite correct. While there are quotas in place for WP/S-Pass, there are no quotas (that we know of) for EPs, and AFAIK applications are judged on their individual merits.Mike_Naylor wrote:Only a certain percentage of staff in a job market can be expat, as far as I'm aware. The government forces companies to give a certain number of jobs to local grads.
I'm also going to disagree on this -- there are lots of expats in IT and finance, and not a few in marketing as well. In fact, the first two of those are well represented on the Strategic Skills List of people the gov't actively wants to come to Sg:Basically, some industries are very standardised - IT, Finance, Marketing - they won't hand out permits to expats, if there are lots of locals there to do it. No matter how bad the company wants you.
The search function is your friend. It was mentioned a few times already that the processing time depends more on the issuing institution (uni, college...), ie how quickly they get back to the vetting agency.amarettoSour wrote:...has anyone gone through the "vetting" process? in your experience how long does it usually take?...
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