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Basal racism in Singapore

Postby SunWuKong » Sun, 11 Oct 2009 7:33 pm

An hour ago I was walking through the Sengkang MRT at Compass Point, when a middle aged Singaporean of Chinese descent ran past my wife and myself and spat at my feet. I was not struck, but the movement and intent were obvious.

A moment or two passed as I tried to rationalize what had just occurred.

I handed my two year old son to my wife and gave chase. I didn't have far to go as he had run into a nearby toilet. I bowled into the swinging door full pelt and almost lost my footing due to the fact that I am so Singaporean-ized that I now wear sandals everywhere. Rounding a corner I found him hastily zipping himself up, catharsis interruptus.

I asked him with polite words, but very grim tone, if he had just spat at my feet. His replied semi-apologetically, whilst inching toward the door, that he was very angry with Americans.

I am not American; I am Australian, and not a particularly patriotic one at that. I let him know this.

By the end of my response he had exited the restroom, where my wife and a small group of bystanders stood by. He may have thought that he was much safer now, but in truth he was never in danger. Not because I wouldn't have beaten some sense into him without a second thought, but because I have a very strong habit of counting security cameras everywhere I go.

He began to elaborate on the alleged crimes of Americans and the complicity of Lee Hsien Loong in some SIA concern, but my wife had stood by long enough and began abusing him in such a way that reasonable discourse quickly ended. He wanted to go to the police station, evidently thinking that to feel so threatened must mean that some crime had been committed; when in fact no crime had yet been perpetrated against him.

I agreed wholeheartedly and began to lead him in the right direction, but my wife intervened again and insisted that he wasn't worth it. As a Singaporean Malay she believes that bringing governmental authority into any situation is deleterious. I tended to disagree, but hit upon a compromise and asked the unthinking abuser for his IC. Of course I had no right to ask anyone for their identification, but he was so full of his own self righteousness that he pulled it out readily. However he wasn't completely without wit and covered his name and left the number exposed only long enough to see, not memorize.

We left the scene then, with my wife hurling damning and unsubstantiatable abuse at him. Meanwhile he launched his own tirade, not at us, but to the crowd in damnation of Lee Hsien Loong.

I would have liked to have heard his story, and discussed the issue with him, but warmer heads than mine ended the opportunity. I would have been especially gratified to learn how, from the mere sight of me, he knew my politics in even the simplest regard. :wink:
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Postby JimH5 » Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9:19 pm

I'm American and I wish you would have put your elbow in his throat.

Maybe next time. . .

But congrats on landing a feisty and combative wife!

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Postby SGBoyxxx » Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9:48 pm

:wink: as I am mention I am a pure local singaporean here.

Chinese :)

sorry to heard that .

even I am a local here also encounter before rude locals.

Just don;t give them a heck dam of it.

Important don;t let this kind of thing spoil your weekend.

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Postby econoMIC » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:24 am

I am sorry to hear that mate. I lived in Compass Heights for quite a few years and was in Compass Point many times and this never happened to me.

Chinese/Malay/Caucasian/Indian/Australian/Singaporean/Canadian/German/American... prejudice is wrong. Unfortunately there are very few wackos in Singapore and you bumped into one. Unfortunately they will never understand what his fault was.

In the end you should be proud of yourself for having walked away from this fight. You have your wife and your child and good ethics. All he seems to have is a conspiracy theory and prejudice. Don't let it ruin your day.
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Postby aargon » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 7:42 am

What you did was admirable and diplomatic SunKuWong. Hes lucky he didnt do that to me or my family. I would have knocked his lights out. :mad: :boxing:

Actually, on second thoughts, i dont want to go to jail so probably just knee him in the balls and walk away unless he wants to fight.

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Postby road.not.taken » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8:19 am

aargon wrote:What you did was admirable and diplomatic SunKuWong. Hes lucky he didnt do that to me or my family. I would have knocked his lights out. :mad: :boxing:

Actually, on second thoughts, i dont want to go to jail so probably just knee him in the balls and walk away unless he wants to fight.


Really? Because someone spat at your feet?

SWK, if you are Singaporean-ized you would have shrugged and kept on walking. Why chase after a potential lunatic? And then to engage when it became clear he was a few sandwiches short of a picnic? Sounds like a colossal waste of time...

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Postby aargon » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9:06 am

road.not.taken wrote:
Really? Because someone spat at your feet?



Absolutely. I find any form of spitting in public a disgusting habit.

Using it on another person, is just asking for trouble and sometimes, knocking a bit of common sense into people makes them think twice about what they do in the future.

Is it culturally accepted in Singapore to spit at other people?

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Postby road.not.taken » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9:21 am

aargon wrote:Is it culturally accepted in Singapore to spit at other people?


I guess it depends on your definition of 'at' but spitting is very much the norm.

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Postby Bafana » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9:22 am

Used to get the spitting a feet thing all the time in Seoul when I was working there. It was alwasy related to anti-american feelings and me being white was good enough even though as the OP I am an Aussie.

Racism is racism regardless of American policies, etc. That said, to be honest the guy sounds like he is a few jelly babies short of a tardis and there are plenty of nut jobs in Singapore like elsehwre in the woulrd.

It was good that you gave him chase.
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:22 am

Frankly I have to agree with aargon on this one. If you are not part of the solution you become part of the problem. If you let someone get away with something that they shouldn't, then you are just as much to blame when it's done again to the next person. Frankly, I'd have decked him as well. I think SWK was extremely generous in his actions.

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 2:38 pm

Bafana wrote:..... guy sounds like he is a few jelly babies short of a tardis and there are plenty of nut jobs in Singapore like elsehwre in the woulrd.



Wow, the tanget to the dimension of that arguement seriously had me looking at my watch for candy.



If you let someone get away with something that they shouldn't, then you are just as much to blame when it's done again to the next person. Frankly, I'd have decked him as well. I think SWK was extremely generous in his actions.



With a 2-yr old in toe that's a problematic solution however, quantifying that, I've never been put in that or a simular situation so it's difficult to know how i would react. I would probably be so stunned that by the time i got my senses the guy would be looooooong gone.

In certain countries and situations i've made a point of wearing a tie-pin or t-shirt with a little flag or indication of where i've initially hailed from, not being American myself, as means of deflecting some of the anger that we know to be out there.




Just wondering if this is, from a nutjob's point of view, somehow also related to the piece done by Ms. Wang a few days ago...... that ruffled a few feathers also in the local community?

Sad these things still happen though, anywhere but more so in a so called First World environment.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 4:03 pm

It's funny how visitors can become targets because of their government's actions (even when we didn't vote for the idiot that may be in power at the time). I remember many years ago to the time I arrived in Balikpapan in Kalimantan Indonesia on a crew change.....

......16 April 1986 (the day after the US bombed Libya) I arrived at the airport in Balikpapan for a crew change and was picked up as I came through immigration and hauled down to the local police station where I was forced to stand at parade rest for almost 8 hours. It wasn't until our chopper came and left that Unocal rep realized they were short one man on the manifest. Finally their representative went to the police station to see if they could shed some light on the situation. Imagine their surprise to walk in a see me standing there about to pass out (it's bloody hot there - no aircon - and nothing to eat all day or drink for that matter). My charge? I was an American and because MY country bombed another Muslim country, I was been held accountable. How long they would have kept me there, dog only knows (and possibly halla).

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Postby econoMIC » Mon, 12 Oct 2009 6:50 pm

Come to think of it, you should have put a nice "lurgie" in between his eyebrows and should have started shouting "you frigging communist, Singapore will never adopt communism you China man" while waving your arms violently. That would have been an eye for an eye.
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Postby Vaucluse » Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:02 am

econoMIC wrote:Come to think of it, you should have put a nice "lurgie" in between his eyebrows and should have started shouting "you frigging communist, Singapore will never adopt communism you China man" while waving your arms violently. That would have been an eye for an eye.


. . . indeed . . . and would have put you on the same level, or lower, than the dimwit who started it
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Postby road.not.taken » Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:43 pm

Vaucluse wrote:
econoMIC wrote:Come to think of it, you should have put a nice "lurgie" in between his eyebrows and should have started shouting "you frigging communist, Singapore will never adopt communism you China man" while waving your arms violently. That would have been an eye for an eye.


. . . indeed . . . and would have put you on the same level, or lower, than the dimwit who started it


Amen to that. :wink:


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