PR via. marriage with SG citizen vs. ambiguous EP status

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PR via. marriage with SG citizen vs. ambiguous EP status

Post by theenquirer » Sun, 04 Oct 2009 9:04 pm

Hello all,

Never realised there was an EP152 form to fill out in the first place...and it seems to have caused many lotsa trauma!

I have tons of questions and my spouse and I are really losing our minds and freakin out about this...help!!

I've numbered my questions; the questions are long, but should broadly require only yes / no answers...so hope that helps all the kindhearted souls who reply...

1a.
Would someone applying for PR status through marriage to a Singaporean citizen, have to fill out an EP152 form upon PR approval at all? Really hoping the answer is no....

1b.
IF THE ANSWER IS YES OR MAYBE....
And would that (whether finalising the approval for PR via marriage requires a filling out of an EP152 form) for instance, depend on what one declares in their PR application in terms of their employment status?

i.e. if you said you were employed in Singapore, you have to sign the EP152, but then if you said otherwise, then you don't fill out any such form...?

2a.
THE BIG GREY AREA.
What happens when say, you apply for PR through marriage, declaring you are currently employed by such and such company, but at the time when your PR application is being processed / gets approved, you are no longer with that company...should that really be a reason for the PR approval to be retracted at all....especially since you are applying basis marriage in the first place?

2b.
i.e.
When they are processing the PR application for instance, does ICA literally call up employers being listed in the forms to verify the information on our forms?

2c.
and at the end of the day...
Is the applicant's employment status even relevant in the first place as a criteria that impacts the likelihood of approval of PR status via marriage?

3.THE COMPLICATIONS
We would need to declare the applicant's employment status because that is the basis for the applicant legally residing in Singapore...i.e. on an EP. And the forms give stern warnings about false declarations of any kind...

however...

Would the fact that the applicant was not 'duly' downgraded to an Spass due to interim paycuts (when salary drops below the 2500SGD benchmark to qualify for an EP) impact approval somehow?...e.g. by making the applicant's legal status look ambiguous?

The eventual downgrading to the Spass may not happen because there is talk of the employment being terminated.

argh!!!!

looking forward to hearing from your experiences. thanks!!

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Post by flameboy » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38 pm

any updates on your case yet? I'm curious as well. cheers

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:41 pm

MOM has stated in the past that if you are qualified for PR in both classes of applicants, Skill Technical AND Family ties. Fill out all the information requested on all forms and MOM will use which ever one is the strongest to grant the PR. Very pragmatic, very simple. Don't make youf life difficult. Just fill out the information and submit it. If you try to "figure out" then you will, like most, be seen and a conniver by the government and they may well tell you to reapply in a year or 2 years. It's best to just be upfront with the information as it currently stands. The odds are that you will be given PR on the family ties scheme, just hope you are over 25 as you could be subject to NS if giving it to you under the family ties. :o

Or, you can file just using the Skilled Technical scheme and take your chances of having to get the dreaded letter saying apply again in 2 years.

The choice is yours.

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