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Need some information on finding jobs in Singapore

Post by sandeepseeram » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 8:24 pm

Hi Everyone,

My name is Sandeep from India: I am a graduate in Business Management and I have 3+ years experience in Customer Service and Call Centers in India: I worked with HSBC Bank and Acer.
Now I am looking for a job oppurtunities in Singapore. One of my friend suggessted that I can come to singapore on a visist visa and search jobs there.

Please let me know some details on this:

1. Can I come to singapore on visit visa and search jobs?
2. How many days it will take approx. to find a job in singapore - I am very much fluent in english?
3. What salary I can expect in Singapore?
4. Are there any recruitment agents which offer jobs; by charging some amounts: I heard that there are agents who provide jobs by charging 5000 SGD: Please confirm on this?
5. Also let me know the best way: quickest way to find a job in singapore?
6. I can spend accross 6000 SGD for the whole trip with job consultation charges if any.


Waiting for your reply sir/madam

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Re: Need some information on finding jobs in Singapore

Post by jpatokal » Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:34 pm

sandeepseeram wrote:1. Can I come to singapore on visit visa and search jobs?
Yes, but...
2. How many days it will take approx. to find a job in singapore - I am very much fluent in english?
It's a very bad time to come look for jobs, I doubt you'll find any unless you have connections.
3. What salary I can expect in Singapore?
Low.
4. Are there any recruitment agents which offer jobs; by charging some amounts: I heard that there are agents who provide jobs by charging 5000 SGD: Please confirm on this?
That would be illegal and most probably a scam.
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Post by ksl » Sun, 04 Oct 2009 1:47 am

Please don't delete, this is a lesson in survival rather than and advertisement and the person can choose any product or brand, it's all about thinking things through carefully and spending money wisely, rather than thinking their is a golden egg across the water!

Trust me, 6k is better in your pocket! There are better ways to get around the problems, than pay illegal fees at extortionate prices, do some homework....I agree it's a sad situation, but the reality is that others would get rich on your desperation.

A much better way, is to ask yourself how you can make that 6000K into 12000k in the quickest possible time, with low risk.

I would suggest looking at what people need everyday, pricing it right, so that you get a quick turnover. with some profit, don't be greedy and think of your market...read up on how Marks & Spensers became so popular. Come here, you will be eaten alive, by the shark infested waters, no shit

You could try China which is worse :) Take a tip learn slowly and be wise, you have probably worked very hard for your 6K, which can be taken away so fast.

We could also look at it another way, I am a businessman, that want's to launch my products in India, so why would you want to come to Singapore...don't you want to progess in your own society.

Singapore is a good place, but very small, boring and expensive. You would be nothing special at all, just another Indian working forever and for so little, when you could be building your own empire. Like Mustafa in Singapore.
India is a big place with full potential, and i mean really big potential, and the best advise i can give give you is, to invest your 6k in your own people, many are very wealthy making much more than you, and they want Western or Asian goods.

If you want to move forward with 6k, double it within a month, and think about how you can do that. You don't need large investment, to multiply your money, I know!

In the UAE back in the 60's I purchased egg and bacon sandwiches every day, they were even better than England could serve, two toasted slices of bread, with a fried egg and HP sauce, and you have cracked it. I could even sell them here in Singapore and make a good living, if property wasn't so expensive

This place is pretty crappy for food, it's sterotype food halls, the food is pretty crap, though i have found good food outside of the foodhalls.

Think very carefully about what your goals are.

Welfare states are far from the cure, Singpaore is just a rip off, place, that doesn't put much value on any other people than Chinese and even then it's got a cost factor, so you are well down the list unless you can make someone rich... Believe me I have seen my own brother in law from UK, work from a start up company with a mutal friend, but he was just empolyed, just the two of them, the boss and him, that build up a multi million pound business, he had worked for him for 30 years, and decided to quit, he recieved a bunch of flowers and they never delivered on the world cruise after 25 years service. How sad is that?

Strangely enough it was in the rubber tyre industry, which made me think, becuase i was here in Asia in 1970 and stayed at the Dunlop tyre plantaion in Malaysia though I was a symbol of importance at the time, it made me think, that connections are what matters...and since 1970, I have built up very many connections, starting with my military connections and supplying a service to them, how is that done you may all ponder over!
Basically its about having the balls to take your punishment like a man, and being yourself, not easy I can assure you...But i managed it very wel in my 10 years, and it never even crossed my mind, that I should consider promotion...why would i want that! At a young age of 18 or even 21...my life was to enjoy, even though i married at 21. Being a wheeler and dealer is the same as being a networker and turning your coin around as quickly as possible. Sleep on it! You have no reason at all to come to Singapore, when you are a developing Country!

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Re: Need some information on finding jobs in Singapore

Post by econoMIC » Sun, 04 Oct 2009 5:00 am

sandeepseeram wrote:Hi Everyone,

My name is Sandeep from India: I am a graduate in Business Management and I have 3+ years experience in Customer Service and Call Centers in India: I worked with HSBC Bank and Acer.
Now I am looking for a job oppurtunities in Singapore. One of my friend suggessted that I can come to singapore on a visist visa and search jobs there.

Please let me know some details on this:

1. Can I come to singapore on visit visa and search jobs?
2. How many days it will take approx. to find a job in singapore - I am very much fluent in english?
3. What salary I can expect in Singapore?
4. Are there any recruitment agents which offer jobs; by charging some amounts: I heard that there are agents who provide jobs by charging 5000 SGD: Please confirm on this?
5. Also let me know the best way: quickest way to find a job in singapore?
6. I can spend accross 6000 SGD for the whole trip with job consultation charges if any.


Waiting for your reply sir/madam
Hi there,

1. Yes you can look for a job while on a normal visit visa. Once you find a job though you will need to get an employment pass which is rather difficult these days. An employer needs to justify why they can't fill the position with a local. In your case I believe there are many locals who can fill the positions you could fill so you might not get an employment pass.

2. Getting a job, depending on what your are happy to take can take about 2 weeks to 6 months or longer. It depends on your expectations. This shouldn't be your main worry though, as mentioned above, the EP is the main problem.

3. Given your qualifications I would guess a maximum of SGD 2200.

4. Employment agencies are not allowed by law to charge you for getting a job. Only employers are charged. You should stay away from those agencies that offer to get you a job provided you pay them. This might negatively affect you from a legal standpoint as well. It might be they then get you a job with EP and lie about your salary and you might find you get paid less than it says in your contract. If you up the employment you are legally part to a ruse and if found guilty you can end up in jail or be booted out of the country and banned from entering in the future.

5. Do you research properly and arrange interviews with possible employers and good agencies (not the kind you mentioned above) BEFORE you come to Singapore. Be prepared to look for a job for several weeks or months though.

6. 6k should last your for a while but please keep in mind that you should NEVER pay any job consultation charges. Have a look around this forum. Other people have gone for these agencies before and are now underpaid or worse, taken to court. You do not want to engage with them.

In general I think what you have to understand is that things have changed in Singapore recently and you will only be able to get jobs as a foreigner that no local could fill. You should ask yourself whether you have any skills no Singapore Citizen/Permanent Resident has. My feeling is that this is not the case, so make sure you plan very well ahead and be very careful with the decisions you make. There are many local graduates with business degrees and even more work experience than you and further more the work experience in Singapore.

Good luck!
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