An online startup in Singapore for less than 10k? maybe....

[sundaymorningstaple]

It's only defamation if it's not true. And yes, I would.

[x9200]

It's only defamation if it's not true. And yes, I would.

Yeah, you now what I mean
The point is you will waste your time and money anyway whether you prove your point or not. I am simply not sure how likely something like this (legal action) is going to happen and seeing so much of irrational behaviour around I am not sure whether to risk a Pyrrhic victory for a printer or an item of similar importance. Do you have any experience her? Have somebody tried to sue you for publicizing this kind of information?

[Strong Eagle]

It's only defamation if it's not true. And yes, I would.

Not quite true in Singapore. If I call you a lying, cheating skunk in Singapore, it is automatically defamation if you choose to pursue it, and the burden of proof falls on me to prove that you are indeed a lying, cheating skunk.

That said, any MNC in Singapore would be extremely reluctant to take advantage of the defamation laws because of potential fallout. Not so the local firms. This is why crap product and scams are so prevalent in Singapore. You call it a crap scam, you get sued for defamation and you have to prove that it is a crap scam. To top it off, if you do win, your chances of collecting from most outfits in Singapore is slim to none.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Somehow, someone has paraphrased what I've actually said. I made no mention of calling anybody names or anything else. I actually said that I would post the problem I am having. That is not disparaging any company, but any company worth it's salt would hope to come to a speedy conclusion as by them NOT doing anything, it would be making them cast their on disparaging doubts on themselves. I wouldn't be calling anybody names or anything else. Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts. I don't need any more.

Oh, by the way, we see this happening more and more now in the letters section of the daily birdcage liner as well.

[x9200]

Ok. This should be safe enough although not completely risk free.

[mrlily]

It's been an insight your experience and as someone who works in marketing I must admit that what you've done does demonstrate a lack of marketing experience I'm afraid. I'm not knocking you, well I probably am but not in a nasty way, but this does serve as a warning when it comes to spending money.

from a marketers perspective what would you suggest? where do you think we are going wrong?

[ksl]

Keep an eye on your stats with this one, who knows people may just buy more just to exchange, could also go the other way though

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20100406/t ... 1650b.html

[gurugroceries]

Intresting topic
50% of our customer base is from google and another 10% from yahoo and other's

rest its from directory listings,word of mouth ,direct marketing and social marketing.
and yeah the organic seo's makes a big difference.

[sundaymorningstaple]

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[WhySG.com]

Im thinking you are indeed spending a little too much. But if your business structure is already ready I guess it would work.

Spending more would mean you would need to recoup more. You are asking youngsters to advertise/promote, but would your revenue cover all that?

[mrlily]

ksl, you were in the process of re-launching your site yeah? how's that going?

[ksl]

ksl, you were in the process of re-launching your site yeah? how's that going?

Yes I was, though its now on hold, with quite a few manufacturers interested in it and the fact I will do my own brand name with one of them.

[mrlily]

keep us posted...

subject change, interestingly the mrs has been at me for some time about her new online venture, therefore i've been locked in the maids room and force fed wine and cigarettes for the past 5 weeks! this venture i built myself from the ground up.

further to the conversations above and the potential reasons why SG'eans don't buy online. interesting stats below ... bit old but interesting all the same;



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Hong Kong’s and Singapore’s cyberbuyers ranked unique merchandise as their second factor promoting on-line buys while China’s cyberbuyers chose impulse buys and buying out of curiosity. For those who did not buy on-line, their concerns were the lack of security, the lack of opportunity to examine the merchandise before purchase, trustworthiness of retailers in terms of delivery, refund and merchandise quality

http://www.singstat.gov.sg/statsres/con ... e/r308.pdf

[noble383]

Interestingly, KSL mentioned dating websites in a previous post.....

I am in the process of getting one built with a reasonable budget, and this marketing discussion is of real interest (although i know some are using it for other uses!! )

I agree that adwords can rip a hole through your marketing budgets without much success but the organic marketing through the twitters, facebook and rss feeds is vital. It will be for mine

What were you saying about dating sites KSL?

Anyone got any tips on Singaporean trends around dating websites??

I am trying to get the SDU Accreditation to remove the fraud, scammers and refund issue that is so prevalent with internet users in Singapore

Thanks

[mrlily]

I am trying to get the SDU Accreditation to remove the fraud, scammers and refund issue that is so prevalent with internet users in Singapore

how do you propose SDU accreditation will remove fraud?



some info on SDU accreditation info for those who are interested;

http://app.mcys.gov.sg/web/corp_press_s ... s&qid=2773