littlegreenman wrote:ceej1979 wrote:Why am I here? I made it pretty clear I feel. To ask for advice on finding jobs. ...
You are asking on advice on jobs yet in another thread you are dismissing experienced user's information as faulty (see below). The fact is that these users are running their own businesses themselves and regularly try to apply for EPs for their staff and should know best about the quirks of it and the odds of being approved. You also can't blame them for not lying to you but putting things as they are, things have changed in Singapore throughout the last two years.
ceej1979 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Not quite smart enough though huh. No your wife can't work on an LTSVP. Without a sponsoring company willing to employ her it will be virtually a no-go. The fact that she has 7 years experience doesn't matter if there are sufficient locals to fill those positions. The reason for bringing expats into the country is to fill jobs that either they do not have sufficient qualified people to fill or the locals refuse to do those kinds of menial labour. Why should they just open their doors and let all and sundry just waltz in an take their jobs?
Because it happens in every country on the planet? All successful economies are based on a mixture of local and ex pat work forces.
I really wish people would stop posting this "it's impossible to get a job if your're not local" rubbish on here.
It flies in the face of reason. To claridy, Singaporean employers, in my experience do not give every single job they have to nationals, just because they are Singaporean, and qualified for it.
They have quotas to fill, of course. But if you are livinig there, apply for a job, and are qualified, you'll have a decent shout, no matter what your passport says.
I can't help but think people like you just come on here trying to put people off trying.
This theory that Singapore employers will only hire Singaporeans, for all jobs, is just plain false.
We are trying to help people and are honest about things. Whoever doesn't like it here is free to not post here. One thing we are proud of is that we do not sugar coat things but tell them as they are. It is very easy to say my brother say this and that, my in laws are loaded but when it boils down to it, we do not rely on hearsay but all went through it. As mentioned SE and SMS regularly apply for foreigners' EPs and know the law inside out, Saint, KSL and myself have both gone through the PR process as spouses of Singaporeans and know the quirks of applying overseas and NS duties for PRs in this scheme... we have actually experienced the processes and corresponded with the agencies plenty of times. So if you do not want our advise, then please ignore it but do not go dismissing everything people with first hand experience say just because some hearsay you picked up is different and you actually don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Last but not least: your comment about Singaporean employers only hiring Singaporeans for jobs being wrong, well you actually have a point there. There is plenty of PRs as well and if they can't find anybody with the right skills they look overseas to fill the talent pool (not my words but those of the last three Prime Ministers). The emphasis is on talent, something you obviously do not poses as otherwise you wouldn't resolve to generally dismissing experienced users' comments and making unfounded statements just because you don't like what they say. So please as you don't like this place (you made this clear a few times already), just get lost, the mods might kick you shortly anyway.
Maybe I'm not expressing myself, as intended. I actually do respect what a lot of people are saying, and have taken a surprising amount on board.
My (albeit rookie) success in web journalism thus far has probably been based on saying what I think on subjects. And I didn't really take well to what I saw as a concerted attempt by some users to "rile" rather than offer help. Anyway, it's a passion that has positives and negatives.
My only point is that publishing is a strange beast, in regards to working in it. It's a truly global industry, with most multi nationals having offices in every continent on the planet.
I've even been offered publishing work in the USA and Japan myself. Countries with probably the toughest visa application processes in the world.
I just felt that a lot of the obvious expertise (I accept these people know what they are talking about) people have been offering, was from industry far removed from publishing.
You talk about talent. Most talent , in regards to the publishing sector, is creative talent. It's not something that is just judged on what degree you have. It's not a mechnical thing, like say IT or big business.
The point I have been trying to make, is that I'm a pretty experienced junior publisher, with one of the world's leading academic publishers. A company respected around the world. I've worked for 4 years on 150 year old titles. Famous, world renowned scientific journals, with some of the top scientific publishers on the planet.
The UK is without doubt, the world leader in this field. The UK titles are decades ahead of anything else around the world, in regards to content and working skill and practices. And working on such distinguished titles is often seen as a stepping stone to high paid work, on younger titles, trying to make the grade.
Now, as much respect as I have for Singapore (I want to move there for the experience, not the job), it's just plain fact that the publishing standards, in regards to academic journals, throughout asia, are nowhere near anything in Europe, let alone the UK. They are in a developmental phase, where they are trying to match the standards the UK publishing houses set.
So I just feel that, although you may not see me as anything special (I'm not), you're not respecting what a specialist publishing field I'm talking about. And how, inadvertently, I've probably done about as strong a scholarship as you can in publishing, by working on this world renowned title.
Add to the fact that (even though I blurt out garbage most of the time), I'm actually a pretty successfull web journalist in my own right, and have had 20+ articles featured on the US TV networks web sites.
That's my point really. Although, I really understand why you don't see me as anything more than a jumped up 20 something, looking for a job.
I work in a very specialised publishing field, and simply fail to see how anyone in Singapore could be anyway near as qualified as me to work in Academich publishing. And this isn't arrogance. It's just the way of the world. There aren't any top journals in Asia. Let alone Singapore.
So, if you can answer this honestly - when I'm seeing fledgling academic publisers applying for staff, and I apply (have probably done the world's top academic publishing apprenticeship), are you saying that I'd have no chance? And that they wouldn't maybe view me as talent?
