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EMPLOYER NOT PAYING SALARY PAST 5 MONTHS....

Postby AKJ77 » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 5:53 pm

Need Advice!!

My employer has not been paying my salary past 4- 5 months now. There has always been a promise made that by mon - or friday it will be cleared. SO far nothing has happened. When approacehd MOM they said they dont intervene in these case as salary is above 2500$.

What shall we do in this case? Its not jsut one employee but lot of them are undergoing the same issue. Please advice.

Thanks

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Postby QRM » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 6:04 pm

Why are you still working then? Read your contract, write a formal letter highlighting your situation make sure its gets signed for as being received give them a time limit pay up 10 days include loss of interest (thats a grey area but gets them to take notice) cc the letter to an employment lawyer. Note in the letter after the 10 days expires your lawyers will be handling the situation and you will want reimbursement for your legal expenses.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 6:22 pm

If you haven't been paid in 5 months, then

a) Your company is a serious cheat, hiding the money or
b) They don't have any money.

Your only recourse is the courts... and before you spend money to do that you need to determine if they actually have any money to pay you should you win.

I started a defamation case... gave it up... even if I won I could never collect because the business was worth nothing and had no money in the bank. I would have spent thousands on a judgment I could not collect.

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Postby Saint » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 7:17 pm

I bet they've paid all the Singaporeans and PRs as they would be in big trouble if CPF payments haven't been paid (I would think anyway)

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Postby Bafana » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 9:39 pm

Get a lawyer but don't stop working yet. Wait what the lawyer has to say.
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Postby AKJ77 » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:55 pm

Can any one guide employment lawyer who can fight this case ? Even they have not paid PR as well as their CPF... its still pending past 4 months... I would really like to take up this case.. please recommend a employment lawer.

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Postby Nath21 » Tue, 25 Aug 2009 2:10 pm

If I were in your shoes I would have walked the first month I didnt get paid. When a company is going under or is acting fraudently your best bet is to be the first to complain and the loudest. Senior Mgt will often pay the first guy to shut up so the rest keep working. Good luck with the lawyer I hope they are acting fraudently rather than they are broke because you have no chance of getting paid if thats the case.

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Postby QRM » Tue, 25 Aug 2009 2:57 pm

Cheaper option stand outside the office with a big placard saying XXX is a cheat I have not been paid for 5 month.

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Postby anneteoh » Tue, 08 Sep 2009 3:48 pm

Oh, I'm shocked and sorry to hear this - not a joke? If this were to happen in nanny state Singapore, where else could one work with a guarantee of getting paid? Check these stages:
1. Get your good friends to pool their ideas.
2. Write to the MOWAP - ministry of work and pay
3. Make sure you have all your papers - attendance at work etc
4. Write an urgent letter to the Straits Times
5. Stand outside your office with a banner as someone had suggessted
6. Don't forget to demand compensation to the date you're paid or given official notice.
But I still can't believe this is true, so it's all a joke, right?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 08 Sep 2009 7:25 pm

anneteoh wrote:Oh, I'm shocked and sorry to hear this - not a joke? If this were to happen in nanny state Singapore, where else could one work with a guarantee of getting paid? Check these stages:
1. Get your good friends to pool their ideas.
2. Write to the MOWAP - ministry of work and pay
3. Make sure you have all your papers - attendance at work etc
4. Write an urgent letter to the Straits Times
5. Stand outside your office with a banner as someone had suggessted
6. Don't forget to demand compensation to the date you're paid or given official notice.
But I still can't believe this is true, so it's all a joke, right?


Who the devil is MOWAP?

Are you sure you don't mean MOM (Ministry of Manpower)? Like the online dictionary, all you have to do is read the online version of the local paper. Happens quite often. Are you, by chance, related to ceej1979?

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Employer not paying past 5 months

Postby anneteoh » Tue, 08 Sep 2009 7:41 pm

Oh, it's you. I'm sorry about MOWAP. It's my new invention for Ministry of Work and Pay. It occured to me that it's purely exploitative to have a Ministry of Work but not one for pay as well. Anyway, I'm awfully sorry to confuse you. Try to laugh it off - I'm just blundering through this space at the moment though I can understand your frustration. Hope you get paid soon if not now. Happy days for you now and forever. I'm not related to anyone.

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Postby ksl » Tue, 08 Sep 2009 9:02 pm

anneteoh wrote:Oh, I'm shocked and sorry to hear this - not a joke? If this were to happen in nanny state Singapore, where else could one work with a guarantee of getting paid? Check these stages:
1. Get your good friends to pool their ideas.
2. Write to the MOWAP - ministry of work and pay
3. Make sure you have all your papers - attendance at work etc
4. Write an urgent letter to the Straits Times
5. Stand outside your office with a banner as someone had suggessted
6. Don't forget to demand compensation to the date you're paid or given official notice.
But I still can't believe this is true, so it's all a joke, right?


Ksl likes this :lol:

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Re: EMPLOYER NOT PAYING SALARY PAST 5 MONTHS....

Postby sassy5 » Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:08 pm

go to Small Claims Tribunals. here's the website with all the information you need to do to lodge the claim. for amount less than $20K.

http://app.subcourts.gov.sg/sct/page.aspx?pageid=4515

hope this helps.

AKJ77 wrote:Need Advice!!

My employer has not been paying my salary past 4- 5 months now. There has always been a promise made that by mon - or friday it will be cleared. SO far nothing has happened. When approacehd MOM they said they dont intervene in these case as salary is above 2500$.

What shall we do in this case? Its not jsut one employee but lot of them are undergoing the same issue. Please advice.

Thanks

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Postby littlegreenman » Wed, 09 Sep 2009 4:08 pm

From your postings I take it you are on EP. I would start making plans in case your employer is out of cash, needs to cease operations and has to let its staff go. You will lose your EP with that unless you are on a PEP.

In addition to what QRM said, you could spray paint O$P$ on their walls. That is what the local loan sharks do. :lol:

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Re: EMPLOYER NOT PAYING SALARY PAST 5 MONTHS....

Postby jpatokal » Wed, 09 Sep 2009 5:18 pm

sassy5 wrote:go to Small Claims Tribunals. here's the website with all the information you need to do to lodge the claim. for amount less than $20K.


I could be wrong, but I don't think an employment agreement qualifies as "a contract for the provision of services", so this is probably outside the SCT's jurisdiction. Also, the other party's consent is needed for a $20k limit, so in practice the limit is $10k.
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