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question about PR application through spouse

Post by dannn » Fri, 21 Aug 2009 8:39 pm

Hi, guys

I have a question about PR application through spouse.

I am now a PhD student in NUS and my wife is PR. Recently, I was going to apply for PR since we hope to by a HDB as soon as possible; however, the ICA officer told me that if I get my PR by this way, I have to serve National service :shock: . I am just wondering, is it real? I mean, I was not growing up in Singapore, and I came here when I was already 25 years old, it just can not make sense to ask a 30 years old man (when I am about to graduate) to stay in the army for 2 years!

Does anyone get PR through his wife's sponsor or have the similar experience? Please give some information. Thx a lot!

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09 pm

If you get PR via Family Ties instead of the Technical Scheme, then yes, your are liable for NS. Sorry to tell you the bad news (you are liable up to the age of 38 or 40 technically).

However, unless you are under 25 the odds of you having to actually do NS is slim. You still have to register though, but normally you will be given a waiver from actively doing NS. Saint is the most recent on here to come in under the Family Ties scheme and he registered and was subsequently sent a notification of waiver. There has been a couple of others on here as well that we know about. BUT, it's a chance you are going to have to take unless you want to try doing it using the LPR (Landed PR) route which will cost you around a grand & a half I believe or getting some experience for a year or two somewhere else (outside of Singapore) and then applying for PR using the Technical Scheme. You would have to check with SMC for LPR as they are the government's official agent for LPR applications.

The choice is yours.

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Post by littlegreenman » Sun, 23 Aug 2009 5:06 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:If you get PR via Family Ties instead of the Technical Scheme, then yes, your are liable for NS. Sorry to tell you the bad news (you are liable up to the age of 38 or 40 technically).

However, unless you are under 25 the odds of you having to actually do NS is slim. You still have to register though, but normally you will be given a waiver from actively doing NS. Saint is the most recent on here to come in under the Family Ties scheme and he registered and was subsequently sent a notification of waiver. There has been a couple of others on here as well that we know about. BUT, it's a chance you are going to have to take unless you want to try doing it using the LPR (Landed PR) route which will cost you around a grand & a half I believe or getting some experience for a year or two somewhere else (outside of Singapore) and then applying for PR using the Technical Scheme. You would have to check with SMC for LPR as they are the government's official agent for LPR applications.

The choice is yours.

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I will let you guys know when I got mine. On the way to Singapore and completing my stuff on Tuesday, so I should get mail from MOD soon. As I am leaving Singapore straight away to finish my masters, would I need an exit permit in the meantime or should I better not wake sleeping dogs?

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:56 pm

LGM, I don't have a clue on that one. :oops:

I was sooooo old when I got my PR They just intro'd me to Singapore Casket instead! :o

Saint might be able to shed some light though.....
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Post by Saint » Mon, 24 Aug 2009 8:50 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote: Saint might be able to shed some light though.....
Even though I left Singapore straightaway after completely my PR process I was back within 2 months. I can't remember exactly when I got the letter inviting me to register for NS but I seem to recall the letter came just before I returned.

Sorry not a lot of help

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Post by littlegreenman » Sun, 30 Aug 2009 5:48 pm

Okay, from what I was told males that get PR through their wives do not need to do NS if they are over 25. What in reality happens is that you don't have to do NS because you contribute more to society if you work and pay taxes however MOD still wants your details so they have a record of you in order to be able to put a gun in your hand and send you back to defend your flat in case of war. So you can theoretically get called up if there is a serious threat of war but usually if you are over 25 you don't have to do NS. This is what I was told by ICA staff after they confirmed with MoD staff. The MOD letter should be sent to my in laws within three months, I will let you guys know once I received it.

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One more example

Post by the giblet » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 5:13 pm

So I know this thread has been inactive for well over a year, but I just wanted to quickly share my story as further evidence of what has been discussed on this (and other threads) - thanks everyone who has shared what information they have on this issue, as it really helped me understand my options and what the outcomes might be.
I've been married to a lovely Singaporean gal for over a year, got PR based on our marriage (which I realise makes me doubly fortunate), and just (with a stomach full of nerves) registered for NS recently. Like others on this and related threads, they informed me straightaway that I would not be required for NS. I'm late 20s, by the way, so everything about my case seems to back up what LGM, SMS and others have said. Thanks a lot guys

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Post by kimtaymour » Wed, 15 Dec 2010 5:47 pm

I wonder why people are scared from NS ! ...

I love army sooo much but the only thing is that a 2 consecutive year can be bitter if it can be splitted its great else no choice than wearing the uniform for 2 years...

luckily am not a singaporean nor a pr yet :(
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Re: One more example

Post by Mad Scientist » Thu, 16 Dec 2010 3:35 am

the giblet wrote: I've been married to a lovely Singaporean gal for over a year, got PR based on our marriage (which I realise makes me doubly fortunate), and just (with a stomach full of nerves) registered for NS recently. Like others on this and related threads, they informed me straightaway that I would not be required for NS. I'm late 20s, by the way, so everything about my case seems to back up what LGM, SMS and others have said. Thanks a lot guys
To clarify, you are not required to do NS does not mean you have been released from NS duties. It will be at the tender age of 40 , they will send you the release letter from Mindef. It is all about body count when the need arises, you maybe drafted back during war time or posted to Civil Defense if the need arises. Unless you have it in your hand , the release letter then you are safe. If not , you still need to apply for Exit Permit if you are wanting to live or work overseas for more than 3 months out of Singapore.
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