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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 2:35 pm

If you are on a P1 visa I'd say yes. However, if you are on a P2 visa, yeah, give it a shot. If you are here for a year now, you might get a reapply letter with another 6 months up to 2 years. (With a P2 I'm betting on a 6 months reapply). You only have three outcomes (well 4, but the forth being given PR). The three options? wait and reapply in 6 months, wait and reapply in 2 years and rejected without a letter asking you to reapply at all. (They still won't give you a reason for the rejection though)

A lot may depend on where you are coming from as well.....

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Postby xtasy010 » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 2:37 pm

Best option would be to wait a year, prove to the govt that you are here for the long run, hope the economy picks up, buy some property if you can afford to and then re-apply.

Browse some of the other thread and you'll get a better feel of the current PR situation.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 2:39 pm

xtasy010 wrote:Best option would be to wait a year, prove to the govt that you are here for the long run, hope the economy picks up, buy some property if you can afford to and then re-apply.


Surely you are not saying that you can buy your way through the government here are you? [-X 8-[

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Postby xtasy010 » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 2:41 pm

@SMS

Does it really matter who was the primary or dependent applicant in this case?

ICA would have looked at the profile of both the individuals and come to a decision, am I missing something here.

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Postby finn115 » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 3:05 pm

Hi

Both of us hold Indian p/ports.

The whole thought process in doing this is I am looking @ Singapore from a long-run.....ie buying real-estate, making capital expenditure, etc. But merely being an EP holder does not entitle me to.

Also, is there a review system in place for unsuccessful applicants?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 3:32 pm

Yeah, you can appeal, but unless you have something new to present during the appeal process it is a waste of time. Did they tell you to reapply later or did they just reject you? If the told you to reapply later, then you always have a chance.

I'm not sure if ICA would have bothered vetting the DP holder and the application if for the PR holder only. The DP holder's employment would not have been relevant to the process of giving the primary applicant PR as it would be assumed that as a "Dependent" it means not working. Interesting question though. The dependent doesn't even have to be on the original application as they might not even be in Singapore yet.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 3:43 pm

finn115 wrote:Hi

Both of us hold Indian p/ports.

The whole thought process in doing this is I am looking @ Singapore from a long-run.....ie buying real-estate, making capital expenditure, etc. But merely being an EP holder does not entitle me to.

Also, is there a review system in place for unsuccessful applicants?

Rgds,


Immigration is still based loosely on a percentage quota system from what I can see - That's why in the 27 years I've been here, the racial percentages have stayed within a couple of points of being the same throughout that period of time. Consider this - during that time, the fertility of Singapore was the 3rd lowest in the world (and still is) at around 1.21. Of the three major races here, the largest segment actually has the lowest fertility rate of the three. Yet, they always manage to have around the same percentage of people of that race here. Therefore, as it's the 2nd half of the year, there is always a possibility of an unwritten policy that places a cap on the other races if their unstated quotas have already been filled up?

You can appeal, but there is no review system per se. Additionally, most appeals are unsuccessful unless there has been considerable new data to submit (and then you also stand a chance of having them ask why you did not divulge full disclosure on the original application). Oh, unless things have changed recently, the appeal is done by the same officer who reviewed the original application - kinda silly but you can see why most appeals are not successful.

I was rejected initially as well, and my appeal was unsuccessful as well. I reapplied with a fresh application 2 years later and it went through with no problems. Sometimes it's timing, more years here (showing you are not a quitter) and just pure persistence that will see you through.

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Postby Asdracles » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 3:48 pm

Asdracles wrote:I got the rejection letter this week, but no time is stated for a new application.

Just curious, is it the usual or not?

I just got a 2 lines - polite letter saying that they checked carefully my application and they are sorry to tell me it was unsuccessful.


Sorry to bring back this again, but still nobody could help me about this. Did any of you get a letter without ANY info? If so, would you reapply in 6-12-24 months?

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Postby Asdracles » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 4:02 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote: Consider this - during that time, the fertility of Singapore was the 3rd lowest in the world (and still is) at around 1.21.


Not so bad, lah! 4th lowest, never 3rd! All those statistics never count Vatican City!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Nov 2009 5:07 pm

The fact that the annual survey is carried out by Durex would probably explain why as well. It would be kind of embarrassing to admit that they probably sell more condoms per capita there then anywhere else! :o :lol:

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Postby finn115 » Sat, 14 Nov 2009 3:01 pm

@ Moderator

Thanks for the detailed advice. I spoke to ICA hotline if I should be the primary applicant this time around andthey advised me that it would be treated like a fresh application. Our only concern is after the 1st attempt, the letter advises us to re-apply in 2 years.

My question is , do I wait until 2 years or do I apply straight away with me being the primary applicant as this I think should be considered as a new application.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 14 Nov 2009 6:00 pm

Who applied for PR the first time? And she was told to reapply in 2 years.

Who is applying this time? And it's already been told to you that it will be treated as a NEW application. And it a PR application for YOU, not your wife. It was your spouse that was told to reapply in 2 years correct?

That should answer you question.

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Postby singaporeflyer » Wed, 23 Dec 2009 9:54 am

singaporeflyer wrote:Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: Singapore PR Rejected

hi friends,
i have been working in singapore for the past 11 months. i applied for my pr 3 months ago and it was rejected with the reason i have not met the residential requirements and asking me to reapply after 1 year. I am a Q1 pass holder. I am Single and i hold a Bachelors of Engineer Graduate from an reputed university in India. I have 4.5 years of working experience in IT. I submitted my PR with the sponsor letter from my company. I am working as a senior software programmer here in singapore. Will there be any chance of getting my application approved if I can appeal with my companys support letter ? I wish to work and settle down in singapore. have any one of you had your PR rejected, appealed and got a successful response ? what is the processing time for singapore PR rejection appeal? Any advise would be highly appreciated. Thanks

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Hi All,
As all you said my appeal was rejected. Thanks for your information,inputs and support. Thanks


Hi All,
When my EP was renewed I was given a P2 pass and I have completed totally one year of working in Singapore. I would me married in February and my fiancee is a Master Degree Holder from India. What would be the best way and also the time to apply for the PR (considering if she is not going to work initially but would be staying with me in Singapore)? Is it to wait for another 2 years from the date of rejection or can reapply after 6 months from the date of rejection since my pass type has changed and also since I would have little more working experience in Singapore than what I had at the time of application and appeal ? Please advise. Thanks in Advance. I can clearly understand that all ur analysis and predictions by senior members in this forum are spot on. Thanks

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Postby revhappy » Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:30 am

In any case even if you become PR and make use of the benefits, the moment you renounce PR you will have to sell your house and give back all the subsidies that you have taken.

Unless you want to become a Singaporean Citizen, but do you really want to surrender your Indian passport? Remember the 21st century is going to belong to India and China. So by default you were born in the right country. Just enjoy your time here while it is good and when India really takes off thats the right place to be.
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Postby singaporeflyer » Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:44 am

Hi revhappy,
The main things that would be of main concern on EP are

1.Increase in Security if I am a PR i can stay for a month more in Singapore while I am confident of getting a job for me

2.Secondly, would be a bit tough to search for a job with a constraint that the SVP would be available only for 14 days upon cancellation of the EP (Since Family would also be with me at that time).

3.On EP, will not be able to buy a house and the rents here are a bit high which makes me feel that, can buy a house to settle down here for another 10 years,buying a house would be a better way to save more.

I will not be looking at PR for any other subsidary benefits

Thanks


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