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Re: Let's try this one more time...

Postby zombielolz » Tue, 24 Aug 2010 3:06 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
zombielolz wrote:No, they didn't give any reasons. In fact, they don't even ask me to apply again in 2 years. And I quote:

"We have considered your application carefully. We regret to inform you that your application is not successful. Nevertheless, you can continue to work and reside here on your valid Work Pass."

Now that's a little odd. I'm on an Employment Pass. You think they've confused me with someone else? Or does an Employment Pass fall under the category 'Work Pass'?

First of all 'Work Pass' is an all encompassing term which takes in all the various types of visas from 'Work Permits' to 'EPs'.

Secondly, and please don't shoot the messenger, it would appear that they do not consider you a suitable candidate for PR here. The reason could be most anything from your background, your grades at NUS, or the size of your family at home. They have to take that into consideration as they represent potential immigrants under your umbrella and also potential wards of the state because of your PR.


That's quite an insight there, that they take into consideration the size of your family back home, etc. I never considered that.

No, don't intend on shooting anyone. :-) This is helpful information.


From one of the previous replies, it sounds like the thinking around here is, if they tell you not to apply again, that means they don't want you, right? That you're not good enough? I make less than 50k a year, so that might be it. Not drawing enough salary?

Always a possibility but I don't think that would be the case.

Re: your second question. That's a good question. Well, back then... I didn't want to stay, so I didn't apply.

Now... I do. It's a funny thing, I guess I only applied for 'Permanent Residence' only when I was truly convinced that I would end up as a 'Permanent Resident.' Back then, I just wanted to finish my government bond (which I have since finished) and leave. So an employment pass made sense. Now... the situation has changed, and I like it here. :-)

This has now become the cause of my downfall. :'-(

Unfortunately, in this changing world, opportunity doesn't always present itself for long periods of time. The window was there, you didn't take it for whatever reason. The window closed and life has to go on. As the Government letter said, you are welcome to stay here on an EP. I would wait the 2 years and then reapply. By doing so, instead of rushing off to Australia or Timbukto, you are showing the government here that your aren't a quitter and they may then look at your application more favourably. Or, they may well reject you again. But even if they did, you are still that much further ahead of the game as your earning power here is considerably more that at home.

Agreed.

I donate to the Singapore Cancer Society. But that hasn't shown up in any of my tax returns yet, I only started in the taxable period of 2010. My other donations are not tax-deductible, unfortunately. Apart from that... no. So community work, etc. helps, eh? I just find it tough... I like to get involved in things I care about, and community work isn't necessarily something I care about; it'd be tough to get into it just for the immigration paperwork too, 'cos I'd drop it like a bad habit soon as I got it. And that wouldn't be fair/genuine/honest/sincere/good.

This getting involved in community work isn't the same as giving cash to charity. And no, don't bother to do it if it's not you. You'll just make yourself miserable and you won't be giving your best the the organization either. Although, if you did that, you would be showing everybody (citizens) that your are assimilating well - they perform charity usually only to get their kids in a better school or the kids do it for ECA points while in school. :?

Yeah, that's right. If my heart's not into it, sorry... I'm not doing it. No PR, then so be But yeah, that's quite funny. :-P If I faked it, that means I'm doing alright for a Singaporean. Also if I ran to catch a seat on a train, or pretend to fall asleep when an old person is nearby. :-P Awww, no, Singos aren't all that bad. :-)

Thanks for your comments. I hope the information here is helpful to someone else looking for information on Singapore's tremendously opaque immigration protocols.


Your thoughts/comments are welcome, if you have any. :-)


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Postby Mad Scientist » Tue, 24 Aug 2010 3:29 pm

Ah...... SMS , I am from Timbuktoo. What is wrong with that place? :D

Zombie , are you still on Q1 or not.

Your mates that gotten their PR , what Pass are they on? Are they married to a SGer.?

There are protocols , we are gathering infos to pass others and to understand.
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Postby zombielolz » Tue, 24 Aug 2010 4:01 pm

Mad Scientist wrote:Ah...... SMS , I am from Timbuktoo. What is wrong with that place? :D

Zombie , are you still on Q1 or not.

Your mates that gotten their PR , what Pass are they on? Are they married to a SGer.?

There are protocols , we are gathering infos to pass others and to understand.


Q1, that's right. My friend, hmm, no, he's not married that I know of. He seemed to have gotten it at around the 5 month mark, give or take couple months in either direction. Brand new job and everything.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 25 Aug 2010 6:30 am

Zombie

Out of curiosity, were you offered PR after you graduated from NUS ?
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Postby zombielolz » Wed, 25 Aug 2010 6:41 am

Mad Scientist wrote:Zombie

Out of curiosity, were you offered PR after you graduated from NUS ?


Yeah, I got an invitation letter. Didn't use it, though. At the time, I was going to leave as soon as my bond was over.

Does that factor in?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 25 Aug 2010 6:53 am

Mate, well sad to say , that is the main factor. You got cushion in to get PR and you wasted it. It has nothing to do with race, religion.
Most local unis grad until 2009 do have this letter of offer immediately after or before convocation . As such they will be under First Gen PR
Pure simple fact offered given and you decline and you get back into the general roll

Sorry buddy , chances getting PR Now on the scale 1 to 10 , maybe 2 unless you got married to a local or SPR
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Postby zombielolz » Wed, 25 Aug 2010 6:56 am

Mad Scientist wrote:Mate, well sad to say , that is the main factor. You got cushion in to get PR and you wasted it. It has nothing to do with race, religion.
Most local unis grad until 2009 do have this letter of offer immediately after or before convocation . As such they will be under First Gen PR
Pure simple fact offered given and you decline and you get back into the general roll

Sorry buddy , chances getting PR Now on the scale 1 to 10 , maybe 2 unless you got married to a local or SPR


Aah, well. No point crying over spilled milk. :-)

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channel news asia

Postby mandychong » Tue, 30 Nov 2010 4:42 pm

Hi Everyone,

My name is Mandy and I am a producer at Channel News Asia. I am currently producing a show called "Get Rea!" in which the episode I am working on, covers the topic of "Permanent Residency" and on what grounds does it get rejected and the repercussions of being rejected.

I would like to call upon any individual who feels he/she has a story to tell, whether it be someone who feels like they've been out done by, or unfairly treated, or have been applying for a long time but have failed despite efforts, I would appreciate it if I could hear from you.

I hope that by producing this show, it would highlight to the relevant bodies on the situation at hand, and also at the same time, a transparent more clearer process of determining permanent residencies for individuals.

Of course, this is a sensitive topic, so I will be more than willing to provide full anonymity to the individuals.

Please feel free to contact me on:
mandychong@mediacorp.com.sg

Look forward to hearing from you.


Sincerely,

Mandy

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Postby aargon » Sun, 23 Jan 2011 3:27 am

bumping this thread because i thought it was both funny and enlightening... :D
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Postby hellind » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 4:07 pm

ksl wrote:I agree with MS, buying a condo will take a big piece of cake and get you no place at all.

Build a business with employment opportunities and you will be welcomed no doubt.
Interesting point. Perhaps with all this hot money flowing into Singapore, the government does not want to encourage investment in properties.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 5:04 pm

hellind wrote:
ksl wrote:I agree with MS, buying a condo will take a big piece of cake and get you no place at all.

Build a business with employment opportunities and you will be welcomed no doubt.
Interesting point. Perhaps with all this hot money flowing into Singapore, the government does not want to encourage investment in properties.


If you think about it, it makes sense. If the government only wanted property investment, they could do so easily. Unfortunately, that doesn't help the government that much at all, so it's not a reason to grant PR. Plenty of people will buy condos who don't even live in Singapore (Indonesian Chinese are a good example - probably the largest non-resident property owning group here).

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Postby ksl » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 6:12 pm

hellind wrote:
ksl wrote:I agree with MS, buying a condo will take a big piece of cake and get you no place at all.

Build a business with employment opportunities and you will be welcomed no doubt.
Interesting point. Perhaps with all this hot money flowing into Singapore, the government does not want to encourage investment in properties.
property investment can still get you a PR if you have enough money to apply through the investment scheme. Though a business in property is only more competition against Singaporean...now that prices are being curbed, chances are limited. Though there are hundreds of ideas out there for businesses that are lacking here.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 02 Feb 2011 6:27 pm

I don't think that is what the OP is on about. He's talking about buying a property for his parents to live in. :-k

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investor application been rejected.

Postby 1_dollar » Tue, 31 May 2011 5:38 pm

Saint wrote:Well that just goes to prove just how hard it is to get PR these days, a year ago they would have rolled the red carpet out for you!

A couple of questions, did you both apply for PR and both rejected? How long you been married?


hi, i noticed you for quite a long time already.
My father applied for the investor SPR last year 10/2010.
we fulfiiled all the requirements for invest to singapore.
but i just received a rejected letter with no reason.
we really spent alot of time and spirit in this application.
any advise for this scenario.

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long time no see...

Postby dragsworthy » Mon, 28 Nov 2011 7:49 pm

its been a while since i posted here.

I reapplied for my PR and i got it it.

So maybe the gates are open a little bit....?

Only changes to the application where:
1. I had the correct university documentation
2. salary a tad higher for me and the wife


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