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Career coach/counseling in Singapore

Postby shakanr » Wed, 08 Jul 2009 9:34 pm

Hello,
I'm currently based in the US and looking for recommendations for career coaches in Singapore. Looking to re-position myself as well as figure out my career options. Thanks.

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Postby Nath21 » Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:49 pm

Not wanting to sound like im not taking your request seriously but have you looked in the mirror and had an honest conversation with yourself. What will paying someone to do this for you achieve unless your own sense of self deception is so high you cant be truthful with yourself about your own goals ambitions and skills.

And if you want to look into areas you dont know about do you think a life skills caoch will know every aera of expertise? I would suggest you go ask for advice from people from different industries first off after writing down some key business areas and matching them to your skills. where you dont have skills work out what it would cost in time and money to obtain them vs your prospects after completing whatever training you wanted to undertake.

Then again im open to accepting cash for some life and career coaching. I just self certified on my napkin from lunch so im now qualified in that area.

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Postby shakanr » Thu, 09 Jul 2009 8:47 pm

Nath21,
Maybe you didn't understand my question OR
maybe you presume to know me and think that it's okay to lecture me OR
maybe you thought I was asking for your advice OR
maybe you have a lot of time on your hands.

Either way, if you don't know the answer to my question, please don't waste my time and yours. This was a serious question with rationale behind it, so please don't dilute this thread with irrelevant commentary. Thanks.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:18 pm

Aren't we touchy! :-|

shakanr, you would do well to rid yourself of the chip that seems to be resting on your shoulder and lighten up a bit. Singapore is a rather hard place to "re-position" yourself as you cannot get a job here without experience beforehand. So, you might want to think along those lines first. You need to get here and get a job first. After you are firmly entrenched here can you make inroads to making yourself into something else.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:33 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Aren't we touchy! :-|

shakanr, you would do well to rid yourself of the chip that seems to be resting on your shoulder and lighten up a bit. Singapore is a rather hard place to "re-position" yourself as you cannot get a job here without experience beforehand. So, you might want to think along those lines first. You need to get here and get a job first. After you are firmly entrenched here can you make inroads to making yourself into something else.


Sorry, I think shaknar is right on the money with his comment to Nath21.

However, if he is speaking about the so called 'career counselors' in the US, who supposedly have the connections and the expertise to direct one into a new profession, he is out of luck here, not only because experience is always a pre-requisite but because the city is so tightly networked.

If you really want to change, your best options would be to land a job doing what you do now, build your network, then use it to move into new areas.

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Postby shakanr » Fri, 10 Jul 2009 3:24 am

Thanks SMS and StrongEagle. Appreciate your feedback. Yes I was referring to career counselors (not life coaches) that are common place here (my previous employer even offered it as part of outplacement service). I absolutely enjoy doing what I do but from speaking to recruiters in Singapore it seems that my function may be a little niche and uncommon. The rough job market isn't helping either.

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Postby Nath21 » Fri, 10 Jul 2009 7:18 am

shakanr wrote:Nath21,
Maybe you didn't understand my question OR (i understood perfectly)
maybe you presume to know me and think that it's okay to lecture me OR(sorry if I disagreed with your approach)
maybe you thought I was asking for your advice (yes you were)OR
maybe you have a lot of time on your hands.(yes I do everyone on here obviously does)

Either way, if you don't know the answer to my question, please don't waste my time and yours. This was a serious question with rationale behind it, so please don't dilute this thread with irrelevant commentary. Thanks.



"I would suggest you go ask for advice from people from different industries first off after writing down some key business areas and matching them to your skills. where you dont have skills work out what it would cost in time and money to obtain them vs your prospects after completing whatever training you wanted to undertake."

Was that not advice I was referring to career counsellers although I said life coach my description was of a career counseler was it not? My opinion of career counsellers are they are rubbish. What qualifications do you get to become one. Sorry if you think they are valuable then thats where we have a difference on opinion and I was trying to make you think for yourself about your own goals, skills and ambitions rather than waste your money. But since you want to pay someone for something I think you can do yourself then I think SE provided you with the response you wanted.


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