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S Pass Appeal with increase salarly

Postby NTRW » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 1:49 pm

Dear All

Pleas share your view of my idea.
I have been rejected my spass application by mom because of less working experience. I have tested self assessment tools from mom website and if my salary is above 2500, i can get spass without experience.

So, can my employer change my salary status and can apply appeal again?
How will be this appeal? May be rejected again because of rejection reason is working experience?
Can I apply appeal form with different salary status however the rejection reason is working experience.

Please advice to me.
I really want your support because i have not familiar with this process.

Thanks for your time and consideration

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 3:38 pm

Without experience your odds are slim at best. If you were rejected at the lowest level, having an increase in salary will flag your application for further scrutiny as to why you didn't apply at the higher salary in the beginning. This might be looked at as something that they should investigate further to see if there is some hanky-panky being done between the employee and employer in order to get a working permit. Generally, an appeal only is successful if you can show either additional qualifications or more relevant experience. Otherwise, it's a waste of time unless you are applying for a lesser pass. (They might also question why the qualifications were submitted with the initial application, therefore they may well suspect forgery as well. About the only way more money will accomplish anything is if you are near the 7K/mo mark. Then it's possible because then the qualifications are no longer relevant and normally the experience isn't really that relevant as MOM figures at that salary, you must know what you are doing and the employer should have already vetted you if they are willing to pay that kind of salary.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 9:38 pm

You should pick up a Sunday copy of the news rag that cannot be mentioned on this website. There is an article about S-Pass. Basically, the government is leaving all the qualification the same, but reducing the point count so that you have to have better qualifications to get an S-Pass... more experience, better credentials... hurting some companies according to the article.

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Postby NTRW » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 9:44 pm

Thank you for your advice

so can i try another jobs and chance to get spass?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:25 pm

Yes, but if it comes up negative again you might have to relook your strategy for working in Singapore. It just might not be on the cards for you yet.

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Postby black eagle » Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:28 am

Hi fris,
If a company applied for Spass and rejected,
then another company also applied for Spass and rejected again,
can apply appeal from the first company? Is it possible to approve appeal?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:37 am

If both companies did not have quota issues, then you may seriously want to relook at your chances of working in Singapore on anything other than a work permit. If two different companies could not get you one, it's usually one of two reasons, a) the employers cannot justify to MOM why they need foreigners do to jobs that there are sufficient locals available to do; or b) you are not qualified in MOM's eyes.

If you have nothing new that is relevant to the case, an appeal is a waste of time.

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Postby black eagle » Mon, 02 Aug 2010 3:12 pm

Hi friends,
How long usually take for S pass appeal?
As an applicant, how can know the outcome of it?
Can check from application status check from mom web site?
If the appeal has been rejected, how can know?
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Postby singaporeflyer » Mon, 02 Aug 2010 3:21 pm

black eagle wrote:Hi friends,
How long usually take for S pass appeal?
As an applicant, how can know the outcome of it?
Can check from application status check from mom web site?
If the appeal has been rejected, how can know?
Thanks


Refer to the below link regarding S Pass appeal

http://ifaq.mom.gov.sg/CustomerPages/Th ... sID=589035


It will take a minimum of three weeks or more for the appeal and the outcome will be sent only to the employer and not to the employee.

If I am not wrong it will be via letter and you will not be able to see the appeal status online.

May be after 3 weeks if you have not received any reply your employer can call the MOM help desk and enquire on the status

Good Luck !

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Postby Rossonera » Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:15 am

Hi everybody,

I would like to ask a question related to the similar case (which is mine).

I had an offer fr a company and they did apply a spass for me but got rejected fr MOM w the reason that I have no working experience. The MOM officer told me when I went there to appeal that the chance of appeal also very slim.

Now I hve another offer fr another comp ( which is also small), they are willing to apply spass for me. So am I be able to get the pass?

For more information, I came to Singapore to study on top-up degree program, which means I had already finished 3 years uni in Vietnam, but dont have any certificate yet, only the letter stated that I have done 3 years. My sch here is a private school and I am a fresh graduate, without working experience.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:37 pm

You problem is that fact that you don't have anything special to offer a prospective employer. In fact, you are no different than every other fresh local graduate (with the exception of fluency in Vietnamese). Because of this, MOM is going to probably reject any application you make. Without bringing experience to the table, I'm afraid, under the current situation, you are most probably out of luck.

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:40 pm

Rossonera wrote:Hi everybody,

I would like to ask a question related to the similar case (which is mine).

I had an offer fr a company and they did apply a spass for me but got rejected fr MOM w the reason that I have no working experience. The MOM officer told me when I went there to appeal that the chance of appeal also very slim.

Now I hve another offer fr another comp ( which is also small), they are willing to apply spass for me. So am I be able to get the pass?

For more information, I came to Singapore to study on top-up degree program, which means I had already finished 3 years uni in Vietnam, but dont have any certificate yet, only the letter stated that I have done 3 years. My sch here is a private school and I am a fresh graduate, without working experience.


Your qualification need to be vetted. Your degree may not be from the approve list at MOM. It does not matter it you studies at a top UNI from USA, it is what they see on their list and if the company that apply for you has NO quota for FT , your chance is slim
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Postby Rossonera » Wed, 04 Aug 2010 4:42 pm

Thank you for your answer :)

I heard that during the election period, the chance of getting any kind of pass is more difficult. Is this true? If it is true then would you mind to tell me when is the election done?

One of my fri said because the company who hired me is small, that's why they dont bother to give out the working pass. So if I can get a job with a bigger company, which requires Vietnamese speaking person, do I have any chance to get the working pass?

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Postby Mad Scientist » Wed, 04 Aug 2010 5:02 pm

Rossonera wrote:Thank you for your answer :)

I heard that during the election period, the chance of getting any kind of pass is more difficult. Is this true? If it is true then would you mind to tell me when is the election done?

One of my fri said because the company who hired me is small, that's why they dont bother to give out the working pass. So if I can get a job with a bigger company, which requires Vietnamese speaking person, do I have any chance to get the working pass?


Only Uncle Lee knows when the election is. I cannot gaze at the crystal ball on something that I would not know.If you cared to read and understand the posts we posted earlier, it applies to all companies. The company can offer you employment but it is MOM that decide whether a local can do the job instead of a foreigner.
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Postby Arar0 » Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:15 pm

Hi, I have almost the same problem with TS, the difference is MOM's reason for rejecting my S pass was because of my educational background. I'm a .Net Developer and I have 6 years experience from my home country. I only have a 2-year college diploma in Computer Science. But isn't that the reason why I was applying for an S pass, cause I didn't have a degree, I can't understand why they still reject my pass because of that. My employer's an agency, but I'll be working for a gov't company. They appealed for it but it got rejected.

If I try to get another job from a different company, will I still have a chance? Or is it useless, since I can't change my educational background now. Need advise... Thanks.


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