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Blatant bullying by Superior

Postby gonzales » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 9:33 am

Friends,
I've recently come across a case of blatant bullying by a very senior manager of his subordinate managers.

The Bully is witholding resources, flip flopping on decisions to keep the victims on shaky ground, changing meeting agendas mid meeting again to throw his victims off guard. Telling victioms to shut up or Schhh! in meeting full of colleagues.

Giving praise one day followed by scolding the next. All his subordinate are tip toeing around on eggshells trying to avoid his scorn.

Does anyone have experience of taking positive action in terms of following up within their corporate HR mechanism or indeed under bullying laws or constructive dismissal laws in Singapore.

All advise appreciated - this Bully needs to be handled.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:00 am

Welcome to the average Singaporean middle management dodo. See another thread about how they stab all and sundry in the back to try to take the credit for or show everybody else how powderful they are! :wink:

If you all have allowed this person to gain a strong foothold with his superior instead of nipping it in the bud. ("we don't want to get involved" or "I don't want to stand out as a trouble maker") Then you deserve to suffer under this guy. If it's unbearable you have three choices.

a) leave the company
b) approach his superior and try to get it sorted out; or
c) continue to suffer in silence. After all, it's only your career you are killing.

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Postby gonzales » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:27 am

Thanks SMS - how about the legal route ? any experience of this route in your HR role?

This guy (Ang moh) need to have his lease shortened.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:51 am

Legal route? 'fraid you lost me there. You want to sue him? For what? Perceived complaints? The legal route is approach his superior. If that doesn't work, I doubt if any laws are being broken unless he has slandered/libeled you you in public (you office doesn't count I don't think). Otherwise, my three suggestions are about it.

Are you a racist? I only ask as you seemed to need to point out that fact. Does it matter what he race is? Sounds like you might have a chip on your shoulder as well. For the record, a jerk is a jerk regardless of his skin colour. No race has a monopoly on jerks.

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Postby gonzales » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 1:27 pm

I was thinking along the lines of constructive dismissal. I don't work for him but I 've heard several stories from some seriously victimised staff.

On the racist front - the answer is no - I was clarifying what I thought was a point in your first post, I obviously misread your post :oops: . Forget I mentioned Ang moh.

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Postby Addadude » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 2:49 pm

To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as constructive dismissal in Singapore. This little slice of paradise is proudly pro-employer - sorry - pro-business.
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Postby morenangpinay » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 9:08 pm

i have some question .. is it normal here for superiors to make you do personal things? like write a cover letter for their child to enroll in this primary school?

2nd question is there a law which states how many hours of work in a week or if its over a certain no. of hours its considered overtime?? i ask coz in the philippines over 40 hrs is overtime. do they have that ruling?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:38 pm

Yes and no. Yes there is if your salary is below 2000/mo. There you are covered by 'The Employment Act" Cap 50. If you make more than that you are basically on your own. Like was said elsewhere today, This country is pro-employer/pro-business. The love the term Human Capital as the term actually translates to a depreciable asset the they run the crap out of and then toss on the trash heap without a second thought. And the government Employment act doesn't protect you.

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Postby Addadude » Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:30 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The love the term Human Capital as the term actually translates to a depreciable asset the they run the crap out of and then toss on the trash heap without a second thought.


Unless of course you are a minister/PAP MP... then completely different rules apply.
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Postby morenangpinay » Sat, 20 Jun 2009 4:59 pm

crap...im just annoyed every friday my supervisor keep hinting if ill work on saturday even if he knows its not my sked. jerk.

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Postby irvine » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 2:24 pm

Can you ask him WHY SATURDAY?

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Postby morenangpinay » Wed, 24 Jun 2009 1:48 am

we have work from monday to saturday except saturday is half day and shedule is alternate saturdays. The team is divided in half.

anyway i always ask him why but he just assumes everyone will be like him since he comes every saturday. so now everytime he asks me, I just ignore him.

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Postby touchbyangel512 » Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:33 am

gonzales,

Quit your job!! if you think you cant handle it.

Cheers

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Postby gonzales » Mon, 07 Dec 2009 9:54 am

touchbyangel512 wrote:gonzales,

Quit your job!! if you think you cant handle it.

Cheers


I can handle my job just fine.
The case being discussed is not me, not my job. I like my Job & my Boss is a gent.

In any case your knee jerk proposal is hardly helpful or practical, is it?

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Postby ksl » Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:32 am

morenangpinay wrote:we have work from monday to saturday except saturday is half day and shedule is alternate saturdays. The team is divided in half.

anyway i always ask him why but he just assumes everyone will be like him since he comes every saturday. so now everytime he asks me, I just ignore him.


Maybe he is glad to get away from his wife :roll: Stick to your guns, and tell him if it wasn't in the contract. Will he pay for you to do a full day, ask him, tell him you are not a charity, you are a victim of employer greed :wink:


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