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Apply for PR on PEP without a job?

Postby RW » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 2:42 pm

I was wondering if it would make sense to apply for a PR when one is holding a PEP but is currently unemployed?

Would such an application be considered by ICA when the applicant has been working in Singapore for almost 3 years already?

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 16 Jun 2009 3:56 pm

I don't know and I would be willing to bet that the ICA is swamped with exactly these kind of applications... retrenched expats with no hope of getting a job back home, trying to hang on in Singapore with a PR in the hopes that something might come along.

I suppose if I was going to try this I might at least demonstrate how I intend to live for the next 6 to 12 months without a job.

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Postby nycmom » Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:24 pm

When you are applying for PR and when you are finalizing formalities at the ICA you have to be employed. A few months ago, I noticed the article at the ST, that after loosing your job you can apply for "special pass" I forgot the name of it which will allow you to stay up to 6-12 month here.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:26 am

nycmom wrote:When you are applying for PR and when you are finalizing formalities at the ICA you have to be employed. A few months ago, I noticed the article at the ST, that after loosing your job you can apply for "special pass" I forgot the name of it which will allow you to stay up to 6-12 month here.


Yes, that 'special pass' is called a PEP, as the OP noted.

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Postby calvink » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:07 pm

PEP..stands for Personalised EMployment PAss??

When one gets employed, the PEP would be automatically cancelled and PR granted in that case??

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:18 pm

Doubt it seriously. They would probably have to file a new application dependent on how long it had been between the original application and the obtaining of a new job.

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Postby calvink » Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:27 am

Upon getting a new job..does the company still need to apply for an EP...or just ask for the company letter to certify my employment here in order to get the PR that has been approve

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:07 am

If you have an IPA for your PR (as in LRP) you only need the Job verification letter to submit. However, it will still take up to three months to receive your PR. You will be given a temporary EP stamp in you Passport to facilitate your employment while waiting for the issuance of the PR & REP.

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Postby trueman » Thu, 25 Jun 2009 2:03 pm

surely, you can apply for PEP without a job, just like what I did, but you must have really good education background as well as working experience in top notch companies.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 25 Jun 2009 3:38 pm

trueman wrote:surely, you can apply for PEP without a job, just like what I did, but you must have really good education background as well as working experience in top notch companies.


Yes and no. If you have had a P1 EP you are already approved in principle for a PEP.

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Postby mugsey68 » Wed, 01 Jul 2009 5:17 pm

If I have been working 2 months (on a P1 EP), can I apply for a PEP already or do I need to wait a certain amount of time (say 3 or 6 months)?

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Postby deepanshu_s » Thu, 02 Jul 2009 1:40 pm

mugsey68 wrote:If I have been working 2 months (on a P1 EP), can I apply for a PEP already or do I need to wait a certain amount of time (say 3 or 6 months)?


you need to wait for 6months, after that you get immediate in principal approval letter

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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 02 Jul 2009 1:56 pm

deepanshu_s wrote:
mugsey68 wrote:If I have been working 2 months (on a P1 EP), can I apply for a PEP already or do I need to wait a certain amount of time (say 3 or 6 months)?


you need to wait for 6months, after that you get immediate in principal approval letter

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Where did you get your information? This is not what the MOM website says.

Former P1 Pass holders who are residing overseas
• Former P1 Pass holders should not be unemployed for longer than a continuous period of six months at the point of application.

P1 Pass holders
• P1 Pass holders will be accorded in-principle approval for the PEP upon application.

P2 Pass holders
• P2 Pass holders that have at least two years' working experience on a P Pass. They should earn a fixed salary of at least $30,000 in the preceding year.


mugsey68, why don't you check the MOM website yourself?

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Similar question....

Postby kman » Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:06 pm

Hi,

So i'm in a similar predicament. I've been a PEP holder since last September and have been working here for a finance company since the beginning of this year. However, September will be my last month of employment with this company. :x

I would like to apply for PR, however since I am just completing my first year on PEP and considering my employment situation, a few questions spring to mind:

1. Is it too early to apply for PR after just one year on a PEP ?
2. Since I will be "unemployed" from next month, should I still go ahead with my PR application, or would it be rejected on grounds of unemployment?
3. My long term plan (one year) is to obtain PR, quit my job (if any) and do my own investing in the financial and property markets here in Singapore. Any advice on what the best steps would be to take ?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on the above.

Cheers !

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Re: Similar question....

Postby jpatokal » Sat, 12 Sep 2009 2:18 pm

kman wrote:1. Is it too early to apply for PR after just one year on a PEP ?

It'll be a bit iffy, but if you're of Chinese descent and have a good salary, I'd give you fair odds of getting it.

2. Since I will be "unemployed" from next month, should I still go ahead with my PR application, or would it be rejected on grounds of unemployment?

The PR application form asks you for your current salary, so you don't need to mention that you're getting fired at the end of the month. However, you are supposed to notify them if there are material changes to your position, and it's not impossible that their computer systems are smart enough to figure this out on their own (although I doubt it). Do you think you'll be able to find a new job within 3 months or so, while your app is being processed? And if yes, why not just wait until you have the job secured and then apply?

3. My long term plan (one year) is to obtain PR, quit my job (if any) and do my own investing in the financial and property markets here in Singapore. Any advice on what the best steps would be to take ?

Obviously you need to get PR to make this happen.
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