Nothing wrong!!!Girl_Next_Door wrote:Had an grueling day and its hardly even 11am!
1) To start, we need to review a group of customers. My idea of efficiency (which seems like the obviously wrong route), is to get 2 dept pull out the customers list, and give to another group of people (A) to review.
But, it seems like the right route is to get group A, to figure out who they think is their customers, and give to the 2 dept to verify, then back to the original route (Group A) to review.
2) There is a report that I need to submit and there is 1 girl who have access to the system that store all the information. However, she thinks the best route is to send an email to 8 HODs, get them to provide the information, then I use their replies for my reports. That, seems to me a lazy way for her, because she don't have to access the system to pull out the records.
And I would think that going through 1 person, is easier and faster... than going through 8 people!
How wrong am I...
Those pesky Asians . . . isn't it great that only we white people know how to work correctly and we never have an ego to protect.bigfilsing wrote:You've clearly made a stupid mistake ...silly you.
You've applied logic to your task and forgotten all the intermediate steps of position and self justification of your colleagues, not to mention allowing them time to claim brownie points for other peoples (your) ideas and hard work.
Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
bigfilsing wrote:You've clearly made a stupid mistake ...silly you.
You've applied logic to your task and forgotten all the intermediate steps of position and self justification of your colleagues, not to mention allowing them time to claim brownie points for other peoples (your) ideas and hard work.
Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
It is not seen that way. When in Rome.... I have experienced the same all over the world - the person who spends the most time is definitely doing the most work At least here it is openly acknowledged.Girl_Next_Door wrote:Another thing I don't understand is how people will hang around after 6pm, and pretend to work. Won't that reflect bad time management? When they think that they "appear" to be hardworking.
Now now! lets not make this into another "them and us" slinging matchVaucluse wrote:Those pesky Asians . . . isn't it great that only we white people know how to work correctly and we never have an ego to protect.bigfilsing wrote:You've clearly made a stupid mistake ...silly you.
You've applied logic to your task and forgotten all the intermediate steps of position and self justification of your colleagues, not to mention allowing them time to claim brownie points for other peoples (your) ideas and hard work.
Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
Hi bigfilsing, , which business-utopia are you from? The UK? OZ, maybe? Nah, the US, right? South Africa?
Irrelevant. Main thing is we KNOW we are better than the little slant-eyed heathens, right?
Hi . I believe it is you who started the 'us and them' slanging match, you may wish to read your post again.bigfilsing wrote:Now now! lets not make this into another "them and us" slinging matchVaucluse wrote:Those pesky Asians . . . isn't it great that only we white people know how to work correctly and we never have an ego to protect.bigfilsing wrote:You've clearly made a stupid mistake ...silly you.
You've applied logic to your task and forgotten all the intermediate steps of position and self justification of your colleagues, not to mention allowing them time to claim brownie points for other peoples (your) ideas and hard work.
Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
Hi bigfilsing, , which business-utopia are you from? The UK? OZ, maybe? Nah, the US, right? South Africa?
Irrelevant. Main thing is we KNOW we are better than the little slant-eyed heathens, right?
Lots of the things i mentioned occur everywhere not just here, but i honestly believe their respective effect on efficiency is minimised.
Probably in connection with relatively low labour cost here you tend to find 5 or 6 people doing the work of 4. More people = more issues
Vaucluse wrote:Hi . I believe it is you who started the 'us and them' slanging match, you may wish to read your post again.bigfilsing wrote:Now now! lets not make this into another "them and us" slinging matchVaucluse wrote: Those pesky Asians . . . isn't it great that only we white people know how to work correctly and we never have an ego to protect.
Hi bigfilsing, , which business-utopia are you from? The UK? OZ, maybe? Nah, the US, right? South Africa?
Irrelevant. Main thing is we KNOW we are better than the little slant-eyed heathens, right?
Lots of the things i mentioned occur everywhere not just here, but i honestly believe their respective effect on efficiency is minimised.
Probably in connection with relatively low labour cost here you tend to find 5 or 6 people doing the work of 4. More people = more issues
Low labour cost? Compared to whom and compared to where? Malaysia? Thailand? Or are you comparing it to Sweden or Norway, or some other inadequate line of logic?
People here work differently from other countries, perhaps you would also like to mention that Japanese workers tend to stay in the office until 10 pm every day . . . even though they have 'completed' their work hors earlier. Does this make them inefficient?
There are inefficiencies in any system . . . and since you didn't mention where you hail from I can't give you specific examples of what it is like there, but I can guarantee that it is no different in scope, possibly even worse.
It gets tiresome reading all this rubbish about how 'bad. inefficient, slovenly, slow etc . . . ' workers are here when the exact same thing occurs on our home countries.
See, , the grass is not greener.
Hi . I did read it properly, just in case you need a refresher:bigfilsing wrote:
Read the OP's topic ........... "work mentaility HERE!!!!!."
If you want to spiral off on an "oh so predictable" tangent fine. But please read my post properely ...at no point did i compare with any other location.
I guess you didn't post anything derogatory, , did you . . .Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
I find this mildly insulting. had you not added in the last paragraph, it would have been amusing.bigfilsing wrote:You've clearly made a stupid mistake ...silly you.
You've applied logic to your task and forgotten all the intermediate steps of position and self justification of your colleagues, not to mention allowing them time to claim brownie points for other peoples (your) ideas and hard work.
Welcome to the world of Asian office politics, "face" and general lazy half arsed approach to getting things done.
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