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Postby Vaucluse » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:57 am

vbelle wrote:because its nicer to live in sydney than melbourne:)



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Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:10 pm

vbelle wrote:because its nicer to live in sydney than melbourne:)

oops...am not starting sydney vs melb war ....


I venture to say quite a few people might like the Queensland area and the universities in Brisbane, not so much for the schools but for the beaches and many other recreational activities in the area.

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Postby sierra2469alpha » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 3:50 pm

vbelle wrote:...oops...am not starting sydney vs melb war ....


Ah that war has been going on for years! As one who has lived in both, and is married to an Adelaide girl, let me just say I am in between a rock and a hard place on that one!!! Make for interesting times depending on which AFL team is playing on the weekends!

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Postby Nath21 » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 4:47 pm

Live in melbourne rather than Sydney if you like:

Attending and socialising at the biggest events in Australia, such as the Australian Grand Prix, Australian Tennis Open, the Melbourne Comedy Festival, Spring Horse Racing Carnival, Bells Beach Surrf Classic (admitedly not in melbourne but clopser than Sydney), Motorcycle Grand Prix (same issue at Phillip Island), Moomba, numerous street festivals;
Dont like sitting in traffic a jam and paying 3-5 road tolls just to move about the city in one day;
Would like to learn the best dance move ever (the malbourne shuffle);
Want slightly more reliable public transport;
Better access to a large number of local markets and fresh food and seafood;
Want better alternatives to eat a variety of foods and much more reasonable prices;
Like to drink cleaner tap water;
Like to watch australian rules football;
Like to attend major art exhibitions;
Like to row right in the middle of the city;
Like to ride to work on a greenway rather than a freeway;
Like shopping;
Like to say I bought this for $50 not $300 (this is the biggest attitude difference showing you have money Sydney=bling and Melbourne dressing stylishly for a reasonable price gets you kudos;
Easier access to bars and clubs (Sydney has bigger venues because licensing laws are stricter, in melbourne you can have a bar every 10 metres;
Better public transport;
Most places are nice to live in Melbourne only a small percentage of Syndey is nice and you wont be able to afford to live in the nice areas;
Melbourne has cheaper rents;

If your gay your probably would choose Sydney thye have the biggest gay party in the world and a thriving community;
If your one of the 30,000 rugby league fans left in Australia you will like Sydney its get prime time coverage even though no one attends the games;
Sydney biggest event is the Syndey to Hobart yacht race (note its about leaving sydney the quickest way possible);
If your dsylexic you will like Syndey they run their horses the wrong way around;
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Postby vbelle » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 5:03 pm

i dont know much about dyslexia and horses...i do know it should be SYDNEY and not SYNDEY:D

for Melbourne:
i dont like the tram in the middle of the street..it makes the city looks messy...
i dont like to see some part of the city that reminds me of Canberra...
i dont like the 4 season in a day..

i dont know...perhaps i just falling in love with Sydney :)
miss hyde park..cathedral..the city..chinatown..manly..circular quay..the rocks..opera house..beaches..QVB..bondi junc..woolies..coffee!! japanese food, korean, thai, italian, indonesian food in sydney is better than indonesian food in singapore! fire works..and festivals?? (spanish, japanese, tahi, and on and on.....)

does water in melbourne cleaner than sydney??really?

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Postby amiee40 » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 8:36 pm

humm.. i have lived in both Canberra and Melbourne.. and no, Canberra doesn't remind me of Melbourne. Two totally different places.

All those food you've mentioned is available in Melbourne and alot of cheaper.

But hey if you want to live in Sydney which is over rated and over priced, thats up to you. I think the most important point is, have you been accepted?? No point in talking about which uni and where you would like to live. Get accepted first !!! Save up enough money for the next 3yrs, tuition is at $30,000+ per year which doesn't include accommodation, text books etc...

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Postby cavalier » Thu, 18 Jun 2009 9:57 pm

Vaucluse wrote:As a UNSW grad I should be biased but then I also went to Northwestern and SUNY at Stonybrook.


You're showing your age, same for me, now it's called Stony Brook University - but nice to know I'm not the only one in Singapore who's gone there!

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Postby vbelle » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 8:52 am

amiee40 wrote:humm.. i have lived in both Canberra and Melbourne.. and no, Canberra doesn't remind me of Melbourne. Two totally different places.





canberra will not remind you of any other city i guess..i dont wish there is any other city as boring as Canberra;p

i said "some parts of Melbourne reminds me of Canberra" not the other way around..and not the whole city..
and that...is not nice..some part of Singapore streets reminds me of Canberra..is those nicely organized-neat street...i dont know how to explain really..guess its just me...

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 9:17 am

cavalier wrote:
Vaucluse wrote:As a UNSW grad I should be biased but then I also went to Northwestern and SUNY at Stonybrook.


You're showing your age, same for me, now it's called Stony Brook University - but nice to know I'm not the only one in Singapore who's gone there!


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Postby TommyD » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:22 am

Nath21 wrote:Live in melbourne rather than Sydney if you like:

Attending and socialising at the biggest events in Australia, such as the Australian Grand Prix, Australian Tennis Open, the Melbourne Comedy Festival, Spring Horse Racing Carnival, Bells Beach Surrf Classic (admitedly not in melbourne but clopser than Sydney), Motorcycle Grand Prix (same issue at Phillip Island), Moomba, numerous street festivals;
i'd rather (and do) just pop down to melbourne for the events and then leave again.

Dont like sitting in traffic a jam and paying 3-5 road tolls just to move about the city in one day;
most tolls are refundable by the govt. Traffic is an issue, but i'm guessing as a student, you won't have a car or will live near the uni

Would like to learn the best dance move ever (the malbourne shuffle);
you mean to say "if you like taking so much drugs that the only dance move you can do is a "shuffle"

Want slightly more reliable public transport;
agreed. i'll give you that one

Better access to a large number of local markets and fresh food and seafood;
come on, sydney fish market? Balmain? the rocks? King st? (as long as noone steals your car), a nice greasy Kebab at 3am on the way home?

Want better alternatives to eat a variety of foods and much more reasonable prices;
I honestly didn't notice any prioce difference in food in Melbourne to Sydney

Like to drink cleaner tap water;
haven't heard this one before, but i suppose it makes sense, it does rain a lot more in Melbourne :P


Like to watch australian rules football;
That does kind of coincide with the gay point below though :lol:

Like to attend major art exhibitions;
ummm, Sydney exhibition centre, i think we get everything you guys do.

Like to row right in the middle of the city;
? ok.
Like to ride to work on a greenway rather than a freeway;
ok

Like shopping;
Huh? you couldn't go shopping in Sydney? now you're just not even trying

Like to say I bought this for $50 not $300 (this is the biggest attitude difference showing you have money Sydney=bling and Melbourne dressing stylishly for a reasonable price gets you kudos;
There are wankers everywhere in the world, there's just as many fashion snobs in Melbourne as there are money snobs in Sydney, there's also pleanty of us nice people too

Easier access to bars and clubs (Sydney has bigger venues because licensing laws are stricter, in melbourne you can have a bar every 10 metres;
And you can have a beer at 10am at a cafe in Melbourne, yes i liked that very much in Mel

Better public transport;
Haven't we covered this?

Most places are nice to live in Melbourne only a small percentage of Syndey is nice and you wont be able to afford to live in the nice areas;
Melbourne has cheaper rents;
Yes Melbourne has cheaper rent, they need it to attract people to live there :lol:

If your gay your probably would choose Sydney thye have the biggest gay party in the world and a thriving community;
Biggest one is San Francisco. but ours is pretty big, and yes gay people are accepted and welcomed openly, thats a positive for Sydney not a negative in my books.

If your one of the 30,000 rugby league fans left in Australia you will like Sydney its get prime time coverage even though no one attends the games;
actually. . . yes you're right.

Sydney biggest event is the Syndey to Hobart yacht race (note its about leaving sydney the quickest way possible);
Yes, and we go straight past Melbourne without stopping on the way! :wink:

If your dsylexic you will like Syndey they run their horses the wrong way around;
i honestly never noticed that, you learn something new every day.



a. It takes a while to get to know the good bits, it is very very big city and if you don't know the good bits then yes it does seem like there are a lot of bad bits.

b. Melbourne = crappy, cold, wet weather. it's only one bad point, but it's a very very important one.


Bring on the war. . .

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Postby Vaucluse » Fri, 19 Jun 2009 1:41 pm

This is fun . . . baiting the cockroaches!

TommyD wrote:
Nath21 wrote:Live in melbourne rather than Sydney if you like:

Attending and socialising at the biggest events in Australia, such as the Australian Grand Prix, Australian Tennis Open, the Melbourne Comedy Festival, Spring Horse Racing Carnival, Bells Beach Surrf Classic (admitedly not in melbourne but clopser than Sydney), Motorcycle Grand Prix (same issue at Phillip Island), Moomba, numerous street festivals;
i'd rather (and do) just pop down to melbourne for the events and then leave again.
Yup, pop down and then head home

Dont like sitting in traffic a jam and paying 3-5 road tolls just to move about the city in one day;
most tolls are refundable by the govt. Traffic is an issue, but i'm guessing as a student, you won't have a car or will live near the uni
That is only if you have to go to town . . . and why would you if you don't have to.

Would like to learn the best dance move ever (the malbourne shuffle);
you mean to say "if you like taking so much drugs that the only dance move you can do is a "shuffle"
Melbourne Shuffle? Wazzat?

Want slightly more reliable public transport;
agreed. i'll give you that one
Coming in from the outlying areas is also no cake-walk, though the Sydney public transport system is not the best
Better access to a large number of local markets and fresh food and seafood;
come on, sydney fish market? Balmain? the rocks? King st? (as long as noone steals your car), a nice greasy Kebab at 3am on the way home?
And let's not forget Harry's Cafe de Wheels at Woolloomoloo!!!

Want better alternatives to eat a variety of foods and much more reasonable prices;
I honestly didn't notice any prioce difference in food in Melbourne to Sydney
You do get more Greek food in Melbourne, but Sydney certainly has more choice

Like to drink cleaner tap water;
haven't heard this one before, but i suppose it makes sense, it does rain a lot more in Melbourne :P
Drinking water? Better in Vic than NSW? Really? Though by world standards it is crap all over Oz

Like to watch australian rules football;
That does kind of coincide with the gay point below though :lol:
Ah, VFL . . . yes, if you like aerial ping-pong.

Like to attend major art exhibitions;
ummm, Sydney exhibition centre, i think we get everything you guys do.
. . . and more!

Like to row right in the middle of the city;
? ok.
Like to Kayak in in the most beautiful harbour there is . . . oh, that's not Melbourne. Our school had Rose Bay for our 'waterway of Fun, I doubt Melbourne can outdo that

Like to ride to work on a greenway rather than a freeway;
ok
There's a greenway on every road leading downtown????


Like shopping;
Huh? you couldn't go shopping in Sydney? now you're just not even trying
Hahahaha . . . yes, the local Greek fruit and veg. We have them too.

Like to say I bought this for $50 not $300 (this is the biggest attitude difference showing you have money Sydney=bling and Melbourne dressing stylishly for a reasonable price gets you kudos;
There are wankers everywhere in the world, there's just as many fashion snobs in Melbourne as there are money snobs in Sydney, there's also pleanty of us nice people too
Silly point

Easier access to bars and clubs (Sydney has bigger venues because licensing laws are stricter, in melbourne you can have a bar every 10 metres;
And you can have a beer at 10am at a cafe in Melbourne, yes i liked that very much in Mel
Great, drunk yobs before noon - reason to celebrate

Better public transport;
Haven't we covered this?

Most places are nice to live in Melbourne only a small percentage of Syndey is nice and you wont be able to afford to live in the nice areas;
Melbourne has cheaper rents;
Yes Melbourne has cheaper rent, they need it to attract people to live there :lol:
You get what you pay for. My parents had a place in Brighton . . . would you prefer that to Sydney's Easter or Northern Beaches suburbs?

If your gay your probably would choose Sydney thye have the biggest gay party in the world and a thriving community;
Biggest one is San Francisco. but ours is pretty big, and yes gay people are accepted and welcomed openly, thats a positive for Sydney not a negative in my books.
Victorian mores in Victoria. gay bashing anyone? I think it's great that we have such a diversified and open attitude towards homosexuals in Sydney

If your one of the 30,000 rugby league fans left in Australia you will like Sydney its get prime time coverage even though no one attends the games;
actually. . . yes you're right.
So, a tiny percentage of the population likes Thugby League . . . giveme Union any day

Sydney biggest event is the Syndey to Hobart yacht race (note its about leaving sydney the quickest way possible);
Yes, and we go straight past Melbourne without stopping on the way! :wink:
Nothing like sitting by the harbour watching all the ships sail past while sipping a crisp white and shelling Tigers or kings . . .

If your dsylexic you will like Syndey they run their horses the wrong way around;
i honestly never noticed that, you learn something new every day.
Clearly top of my list of Melbourne advantages, but then horse racing isn't really my thing


a. It takes a while to get to know the good bits, it is very very big city and if you don't know the good bits then yes it does seem like there are a lot of bad bits.

b. Melbourne = crappy, cold, wet weather. it's only one bad point, but it's a very very important one.


Bring on the war. . .


Melbourne is ok as far as cities go but it isn't distinct enough hold great interest . . .
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Postby vbelle » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:12 am

Vaucluse wrote:This is fun . . . baiting the cockroaches!



Melbourne is ok as far as cities go but it isn't distinct enough hold great interest . . .


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Postby Nath21 » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 2:44 pm

More baiting I found this nice!

Enjoy you ticks, cockroaches and friut fly northern neighbours!

Melbourne better than Sydney

- Better and cheaper food
- Nicer people. Sydney people can be rude!
- Has an arts and entertainment culture (Sydney doesn't!!!)
- We host the International Melbourne Comedy Festival, Grand Prix, Moomba and various other festivals
- Our CBD is easier to navigate
- We have trams and not lightrail
- We have Australia's SECOND best university - the University of Melbourne, ranked 22 in the world! (NOW BEFORE ANYONE DISPUTES THIS, PLEASE REFER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Melbourne) Link below.
- People come down to Melbourne to shop
- We hosted the World Swimming Championships
- AFL comes from Melbourne - much better than that NRL crap
- Our Lord Mayor is John So. Everyone knows that he rocks!
- Sydney is the most polluted capital city in Australia! (Source: "What's good for you")
- Own experience with people with anger management problems coming from Sydney
- Melbourne has better drivers - Sydney drivers have anger management issues (generally, Sydney people are just angry, see above - people who SLAM audit files in rooms and books on desks in an office environment, isn't that right?)
- Traffic is better in Melbourne
- Melbourne has more markets for getting fresh fruit, produce and other cool stuff. There's Queen Victoria, Preston, Prahran, South Melbourne and many more!
- Melbourne is grid layout, north east south west. Sydney is a nauseating rollercoaster.
- Fashionable, friendly. funky, fun, vibe, bars, parks, basically how ugly is George St? How beautiful is Collins St?Adds to our AWESOME nightlife
- We don't have ugly beach riots like Cronulla!
- We also have the national champion football (Melbourne Victory) club... and the countries greatest high school, aptly named, Melbourne High School (also not forgetting MacRob for the girls)
- Better architecture rather than relying on the Harbour and Opera House for everything!
- We have the biggest shopping complex in the southern hemisphere - Chaddy!
- Crown Casino kicks Star City's ass!
- Cheaper booze
- FASHION!
- We have the Eureka Tower - tallest residential building in the world!
- Oscar winner Cate Blanchett comes from Melbourne! (and MLC)
- Public transport is so much damn cheaper!
- We have the Aus Open and Kooyong Classic, which kicks Adidas international tournament's ass :P
- Worst coffee ever in Sydney
- Melbourne doesn't have a stupid monorail!
- More expensive accommodation in Sydney and property in general
- Melbourne Spring Racing Carnival time, not to mention the Melbourne Cup!
- MCG is a much better stadium than SCG
- Well endowed men - note I am ONLY putting up your suggestions so feel free to argue this one with me
- Really great bars
- Monopoly Board which features Melbourne
- Melbourne also has the tallest office building in australia - depending on who you believe - either 120 Collins, Rialto or 101 Collins - they are all taller than any buildings in Sydney
- 7 out of the top 10 Aussie companies have their HQ in Melbourne....BHP, Telstra, ANZ Coles Myer, NAB, FOSTERS
- Melbourne had the first ever cricket test match
- Bigger agricultural show
- The Melbourne Cup and really awesome Spring Carnival
- Bigger Fashion Festivals (Melbourne International)
- Melbourne hosted the first sitting of parliament, before Canberra was established
- Melbourne also has the best fire-twirlers in Aust
melbourne is the sporting capital, all the best sporting people from around the world come to our city
- We were the capital city of Australia before Canberra... They've never been and never will be!
- We hosted the Olympic Games first... They can never take that away from us hahaha
- People go to Sydney to visit, but to Melbourne to Live
- Sydney was designed by criminals, Melbourne by Engineers and Architects
- Melbourne, along with Vancouver, the world's most livable city.
- We have distinctive seasons in Melbourne and get to wear layers.
- Melbourne didn't produce Lara Bingle - so where the bloody hell is she now?
- Tollgates on freeways

Sum up - People go to Sydney to visit but to Melbourne to Live

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Postby Vaucluse » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 3:22 pm

:lol: Typical of Melbournians to always try to 'prove' how they are better than Sydney :lol:

I stopped reading after:
- Nicer people. Sydney people can be rude!
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Postby sierra2469alpha » Tue, 23 Jun 2009 3:39 pm

Have been watching my mate Vaucluse battle on valiantly here. As an ex Melbourne (high school and uni) but then 17 odd years in Sydney, I guess I've seen both sides of the story as have many others.

But I'm going to drop Nath21 in it on this one (in the spirit of good humour) - your sources...mate....wiki AND "what's good for you"...!!!!! In the same post!!! What next? Derryn Hinch's latest op-ed piece quoted as fact? :P

Oh and the Cronulla thing - you guys in Melbourne did have that small thing called the gangland killings, plus you gave us Roberta Williams. Deduct extra points :P

As they have said for years, the only good thing to come out of Melbourne is the Hume Highway :P (that out to stir them up Vaucluse!)

Cheers all, Mr. P :lol:


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