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need advice
need advice
can anybody enlighten me please?
Last edited by char siu on Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
you shouldn't travel into singapore without doing your homework.
email the national service people to find out what your situation is.
http://www.ns.sg
you need not include your full name or ID number, etc, if you don't want to.
and then search the rest of this sub-section for what others have to say.
email the national service people to find out what your situation is.
http://www.ns.sg
you need not include your full name or ID number, etc, if you don't want to.
and then search the rest of this sub-section for what others have to say.
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Well, considering the new master database here in Singapore which links the 5 major government databases of Singapore into one, It will take less than 2 minutes to do a query search of Birth records, Medical Records, Tax Records, MOM records and ICA/Police records.
How hard would it be for Immigration to notice an Asian looking young man with a european passport and a birthplace shown in the passport of Singapore. All they have to do is enter the D.O.B. on the passport and cross check to see how many males were born on that date of what race and how many are currently counted for either by death, NS completed, holding current exit permit or educational waiver, citizenship properly renounced or MIA? Pretty easy.
Come on to Singapore without checking first. It's only a matter of time, young man, only time......
How hard would it be for Immigration to notice an Asian looking young man with a european passport and a birthplace shown in the passport of Singapore. All they have to do is enter the D.O.B. on the passport and cross check to see how many males were born on that date of what race and how many are currently counted for either by death, NS completed, holding current exit permit or educational waiver, citizenship properly renounced or MIA? Pretty easy.
Come on to Singapore without checking first. It's only a matter of time, young man, only time......
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Look, man... you need to read the thread almost immediately below this one called 'exemption from national service'. You also need to search these threads for 'NS', 'national service', and such.char siu wrote:yes, but when they enter the date of birth how do they want to know that I am the person they are looking for? I can just say that thats not me because it is my old name and it could also be someone else. I mean how can they find out that I have changed my name?
they probably have me listed under my old name but how should they actually know that I am the person with that old name
You are playing with fire. None of us knows what will happen for sure... to respond to your question... you might walk through just fine... and you might get caught in a horror show that takes months and $$$ to resolve.
Singapore is very serious about NS and even more serious about people who don't do it. None of us know the records they keep, or the cross checking they do. You are asking us to say... no problem... that's what would happen... you tell them you aren't really you and breeze right through.... may you will, maybe you won't.
You would be better off reading much good advice posted here and doing something legally about your status.
If they get suspicious and detain you, the game is up -- one call to Luxembourg, they'll have your story sorted out, and you'll be humping mud for two years.char siu wrote:yes, but when they enter the date of birth how do they want to know that I am the person they are looking for? I can just say that thats not me because it is my old name and it could also be someone else. I mean how can they find out that I have changed my name?
I agree with SE. Maybe you'll pass through, maybe you won't, nobody can guarantee that to you. The only way to really solve this is to formally renounce your Sg citizenship, and if you left at 7 years old, this should be possible.
Vaguely heretical thoughts on travel technology at Gyrovague
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Worst case? They'll catch on to your scam at the airport and be pissed. They'll haul you into a 4 x 6 room in the back and smack you around for a while. Hook up some electric wires to your balls to make sure they get the real truth. Leave you sitting there for 24 hours with no food. Finally haul you down to a court for arraignment. Judge will throw you into lockup and deny bail as a flight risk. Will set your first hearing 3 weeks out since you confessed to scamming the government. No free lawyer and almost no communications to hire one. After listening to government lawyer explain how you used changed names and false id's you only get to attempt to explain why you confessed... if admissible at all. Slammer time and you get to do NS.char siu wrote:ok, let's think of the worst case then.. will I be arrested and have to testify in open court right after I have arrived? or would it occur a few days later?
How's that for a 'worst case'?
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