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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 02 Nov 2021 5:33 pm

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by Swn4 » Tue, 02 Nov 2021 7:30 pm

You need to look for older condos &/or ones with a lot of expat tenants who don’t own cars. So not that difficult for where I was looking - Orchard area.
My bigger difficulty was that agents were not willing to show the units to Singaporeans as they claimed that Landlords only wanted to rent to Expats! I honestly suspect it was more the agents than the landlords who were coming up with this.


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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by khazumeh5283 » Thu, 08 Dec 2022 10:37 am

Hi! I have a question, I know this is not so related topic but I am one of a tenant in a condo and staying in the Master's Bedroom, my family will be visiting Singapore this December for 3 weeks and my initial plan was to let them stay with me in the condo where I am staying, but right now I am having second thoughts as the main tenant told me it is not allowed to let them stay there because the owner may find out.
We are already 6 in the house and if my 5 family members (2 adults and 3 kids) will be coming we will be 11 in total in the house. As to space, we still can fit. But they say it is not allowed. If we do rent out a Service Apartment it will be too much of a cost on my end. So my question is, can I stick to my original plan to let them stay with me in my room and just pay for the PUB and add-on on my rental? The owner isn't staying in the house so I was thinking maybe can ask all my housemates to cooperate? Please enlighten me on what to do. Will really appreciate a reply from you guys. Thanks

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 08 Dec 2022 3:30 pm

Can you afford to have your lease terminated?
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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 08 Dec 2022 4:46 pm

khazumeh5283 wrote:
Thu, 08 Dec 2022 10:37 am
Hi! I have a question, I know this is not so related topic but I am one of a tenant in a condo and staying in the Master's Bedroom, my family will be visiting Singapore this December for 3 weeks and my initial plan was to let them stay with me in the condo where I am staying, but right now I am having second thoughts as the main tenant told me it is not allowed to let them stay there because the owner may find out.
We are already 6 in the house and if my 5 family members (2 adults and 3 kids) will be coming we will be 11 in total in the house. As to space, we still can fit. But they say it is not allowed. If we do rent out a Service Apartment it will be too much of a cost on my end. So my question is, can I stick to my original plan to let them stay with me in my room and just pay for the PUB and add-on on my rental? The owner isn't staying in the house so I was thinking maybe can ask all my housemates to cooperate? Please enlighten me on what to do. Will really appreciate a reply from you guys. Thanks
If 1-2 family members on short visit, you can inform the owner and accommodate. 5 is too much and so you need to find alternative accomodation.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by Swn4 » Thu, 08 Dec 2022 5:03 pm

khazumeh5283 wrote:Hi! I have a question, I know this is not so related topic but I am one of a tenant in a condo and staying in the Master's Bedroom, my family will be visiting Singapore this December for 3 weeks and my initial plan was to let them stay with me in the condo where I am staying, but right now I am having second thoughts as the main tenant told me it is not allowed to let them stay there because the owner may find out.
We are already 6 in the house and if my 5 family members (2 adults and 3 kids) will be coming we will be 11 in total in the house. As to space, we still can fit. But they say it is not allowed. If we do rent out a Service Apartment it will be too much of a cost on my end. So my question is, can I stick to my original plan to let them stay with me in my room and just pay for the PUB and add-on on my rental? The owner isn't staying in the house so I was thinking maybe can ask all my housemates to cooperate? Please enlighten me on what to do. Will really appreciate a reply from you guys. Thanks
Not legal.

All types of private residential property are subjected to an occupancy cap of six unrelated persons per property.
Unrelated persons refer to anyone who is not part of the same family unit.
Domestic helpers are considered part of the same family unit.
The occupancy cap also applies to tenants who sublet the property. As the property owner, you must ensure that your tenants follow the rules.


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Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 08 Dec 2022 5:06 pm

Swn4 wrote:
Thu, 08 Dec 2022 5:03 pm
khazumeh5283 wrote:Hi! I have a question, I know this is not so related topic but I am one of a tenant in a condo and staying in the Master's Bedroom, my family will be visiting Singapore this December for 3 weeks and my initial plan was to let them stay with me in the condo where I am staying, but right now I am having second thoughts as the main tenant told me it is not allowed to let them stay there because the owner may find out.
We are already 6 in the house and if my 5 family members (2 adults and 3 kids) will be coming we will be 11 in total in the house. As to space, we still can fit. But they say it is not allowed. If we do rent out a Service Apartment it will be too much of a cost on my end. So my question is, can I stick to my original plan to let them stay with me in my room and just pay for the PUB and add-on on my rental? The owner isn't staying in the house so I was thinking maybe can ask all my housemates to cooperate? Please enlighten me on what to do. Will really appreciate a reply from you guys. Thanks
Not legal.

All types of private residential property are subjected to an occupancy cap of six unrelated persons per property.
Unrelated persons refer to anyone who is not part of the same family unit.
Domestic helpers are considered part of the same family unit.
The occupancy cap also applies to tenants who sublet the property. As the property owner, you must ensure that your tenants follow the rules.


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He is the tenant, but still need to follow rules.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by catfeinneaddict39 » Sun, 11 Dec 2022 3:22 pm

I have a question--hope someone can help me out.
I am a single professional, renting a studio which is a part of a dual-key condo (the other part of this is the main unit which I believe is at least a 2-bedroom, if not 3).
The landlord's family stays in the main unit next door (husband, wife, and a young kid).
As part of my rental agreement, our combined utilities bill for the two units (electricity, water & gas) are capped at $150/month, while any excess is automatically born by me.
The landlord made this calculation based on the consumption of the previous tenant who was with them for 4 years (and they also showed me their previous utilities bills, which are mostly below $150).
I've been here for a year and most months we manage to keep the bills under the cap, with some months exceeded by $15-20, which is not a big deal on my end as I was working from home for the majority of 2022.

Recently, my landlord renewed their electricity contract with Sembcorp, and showed me that the rate has increased significantly, by almost a whooping 100%!
This new rate will take effect in Jan 2023.
I asked them if the monthly cap of $150/month will be adjusted (as it should), but I was told that they will observe the consumption for the first 3 months before deciding how to adjust the cap.
I am clarifying what this means exactly, as our upcoming bills for the next 3 months are guaranteed to exceed $150 at this point... so who should bear the excess for these 3 months?
It is not fair to automatically put it on me, as that would mean I am getting penalized by bearing the burden of the rate increase, without me actually increasing my consumption (and we are talking significant increase here).

How should both parties best approach this issue?
I personally feel that the monthly utility cap should be increased pretty significantly, to reflect the changes implemented by the electricity provider.
Plus I am no longer working from home and is usually out for 10 hours a day, at least 5 days/week.
I approached the landlord's agent whom I signed the lease with, and she brushed me off by telling me to discuss directly with the landlord, and how rental prices have risen drastically recently (which is irrelevant for my case, as my lease is not up for another year 🙄).

Please share any thoughts/advice on the matter, thanks.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 11 Dec 2022 8:26 pm

catfeinneaddict39 wrote:
Sun, 11 Dec 2022 3:22 pm
I am clarifying what this means exactly, as our upcoming bills for the next 3 months are guaranteed to exceed $150 at this point... so who should bear the excess for these 3 months?
It is not fair to automatically put it on me, as that would mean I am getting penalized by bearing the burden of the rate increase, without me actually increasing my consumption (and we are talking significant increase here).

Please share any thoughts/advice on the matter, thanks.
Should you not be clarifying or working out this at the earliest with your landlord? If you feel unfair, you should be speaking to your landlord and work out something mutual during the period of observation for 1-3 months.

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