Looks like you already have the answer....macson wrote: What i heard from CMPB, she said that i've live and study in singapore, even if i manage to renounce my citizenship, i still have to serve NS.
They said i owe singapore something, meaning NS.
yep, but on the other hand, ICA said i can renounce my Singapore citizenship after getting my Australian citizenship. I'm pretty certain that I'm able to get it as I'm born in Australia. According to CMPB there's a slim chances, but im will to take the chance to know my options.Plavt wrote:Looks like you already have the answer....macson wrote: What i heard from CMPB, she said that i've live and study in singapore, even if i manage to renounce my citizenship, i still have to serve NS.
They said i owe singapore something, meaning NS.
i understood you, however we are allow to refuse or to take the Oath of Renunciation, Allegiance and Loyalty at the age of 21. Having not taking it, my citizenship will be taken away. am i right ?sundaymorningstaple wrote:Under Singapore law, if you have acquired Singapore Citizenship or Permanent Residence, and you have enjoyed any of the socio-economic benefits of have same, then by law your are legally obligated to do National Service. Having enjoyed the socio-economic benefits basically means having attended secondary schooling ( Secondary 1 or more); OR, having held a Singapore NRIC AND/OR Passport. If so, then, as a requisite of having taken/enjoyed these things you also inherited the obligation to do NS as well. Singapore is a Sovereign Nation and therefore it's laws are sacrosanct for all that use the Country's benefits. If you listen to the music, by law you much pay the piper.
While you might get away from Singapore without doing NS, you will never be able to return to Singapore in the future as you will be classified as a deserter and should you be found out here, you would be jailed or fined or both (and you will still have to do NS).
smsmacson wrote:
i understood you, however we are allow to refuse or to take the Oath of Renunciation, Allegiance and Loyalty at the age of 21. Having not taking it, my citizenship will be taken away. am i right ?
If i choose not to take it, back then, am i still by law have to serve army even benefited from socio-economic?
Yes. If you were a PR (Permanent Resident) and you enjoyed those benefits you are obligated to serve NS here. That one of the codicils of taking up PR. As a PR you still don't have Singaporean Citizenship but it is one of the obligation you accept by accepting PR. So whether or not you take of oath of allegiance or not, you cannot shirk your NS obligations.
Secondly, lets say i've already fulfilled my duty by serving NS, i choose to drop my singapore citizenship and obtain an australian citizenship. by right im not a singaporean and wont have to fight for singapore right ? if that's the case why do i have to serve NS?
Because it's the law? You have to pay for that which you used here. Very simple really. If you use it, you are obligated to pay for it. There are no free rides in the world today. If you are serving NS and Singapore goes to war, yes you would have to fight. Once you have served your basic NS (18-21 months), you are free to give up your citizenship or PR and go your merry way. It also leaves the doors open for the future as well rather than closing them permanently.
Sorry too many question. i wont mind serving but just want to know what are my options.
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